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post #21 of 25 Old 01-15-2009, 09:21 PM
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I don't agree with using a converter on a Pelham, You might as well be using a kimberwicke .
Converter? Anyone explain?
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post #22 of 25 Old 01-15-2009, 09:26 PM
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There ya go, there's a pelham. And a kimberwicke won't do what a pelham does because of the attachment points - unless you leave one rein "loose" on the D (which would act as a snaffle, no curb at all) and getting reins to stay put loose on a D is tough, so personally I do not think that you could turn a kimberwicke into a pelham. (So to speak)

Here is how a Pelham is used with 2 reins:


And with a "converter":


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that kimberwick is not that harsh of a bit, it simply gives you some leverage to be able to stop easier...I would stay away from the twisted stuff if you want to work your way down in the bits. Stay with the smoother bits.
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OK, I'm a bit confused (for those of you who know me, that's EASY to do!! :P) but I'm a bit lost...

Why can't you use two reins with a Kimerwick like the same way you'd use two reins with a pelham? On a pelham, you can have one set of reins attached to "the back loop" (I'll call it??? - like a ring type snaffle bit) and the second set attached to the "front loop" (like a curb bit).

Couldn't one do the same thing on a Kimerwick? Attach one set of reins to the top hole (the A hole) and a second set to the lower hole (the B hole)? The A acts like a snaffle - no to minimal leverage, and the B acts like a curb because of the fulcrum action around the pivoting mouth peice (bar)? Arnt the outcomes the same?

Not trying to debate....I'm just kinda lost on the mechanics of it.

BUT!! I will say, IMHO, the pelham does look alot nicer than the kimberwick.........but that's just me! :)

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No, because of the mechanics of a kimberwicke. If you attach the reins on the first hole, the top hole, you still get mild leverage. Then the bottom hole is even more leverage. So you can't ride without leverage.
If looped the rein around the whole thing so you aren't in a hole at all, the rein can slip around, with a D ring the rein doesn't tend to stay in the same place, so you're generally going to get some leverage when you apply the rein.

Did I make sense? Please let me know if I have to clear anything up :)


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