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    04-29-2009, 07:38 PM
  #11
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I don't use SMBs on cross country. The leg gets way too hot and they hold too much water.

If you're at the lower levels (up to prelim) then you can definitely just use woof boots. Anything about prelim I would run in either N.E.W.s or porters.
     
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    04-29-2009, 08:11 PM
  #12
Green Broke
Yea, I agree that Woofs are great for up to Prelimb. Acctually, my friend has done CIC* with her's. I LOVE mine and they don't hold alot of water.
And MIEventer, I just don't like using support boots. My preferance.
     
    04-29-2009, 08:19 PM
  #13
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Hoofprints in the Sand    
I have my first show coming up in a couple months, an eventing "mini trial". When I am jumping at the barn, I always use polo wraps for my horse to protect and support her tendons/ankle. But in eventing apparently polo wraps are "strongly discouraged" (according to the rule book of this mini trial), I guess because there's the danger of them coming unwrapped.

So I need to get a pair of boots, at least for her front legs if not the back as well. But I don't want to spend a ton of $$$$ on them. Does anyone know of some nice boots that would do the trick of tendon/ankle support that don't cost too much? I'm looking for under $30/pair if at all possible...one of my barnmates uses these for the x-country portion of eventing shows she's in, but they don't seem like they would do much other than protect from striking, although I have no experience with boots so I may be wrong...

Woof All-Purpose Boots - Dover Saddlery.
Okay... so, I am glad that the show is discouraging polos. Not only do they have the chance of becoming unwrapped-- but during XC and if the ground is wet during stadium, they absorb the water and come loose. This can cause them to fall around your horse's ankles which isnt very safe...

Im a cheapy... so my boots have always been under 30 or 40 dollars. I prefer woof or splint boots in the front. They are very sturdy and easy to keep clean. They are mostly used for protecting the front of your horse's legs, his fetlocks, and knees. If you want to protect his heels and coronet band, you can also buy bell boots.

I like the boots you are looking at... but I prefer the ones that are almost all neopreme and have like a soft, rough suede like cusion on the inside. Ill try to find them because its hard to explain. They are basically the exact same thing, but more flexible.

These are the boots I have used and will probably always use. Any other questions, I will answer :)

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    04-29-2009, 08:24 PM
  #14
Weanling
These are what my boots look like... only all black.
     
    04-29-2009, 08:31 PM
  #15
Trained
Yeah - those are the Splint Boots that I used to use back in my Pony Club Days.

I dislike Splint Boots personally - because they don't absorb any of the shock that our horses joints take in when they jump.

That's why I love SMB's beacuse they've been proven to do the job.

I go to Richland Park - and I see quite a few Eventing Horses in SMB's *Richland Park is a CIC/CCI*** Course* I've seen 3 star horse in SMB's and I've seen Prelim Horses in SMB's.

Heck, I went Prelim and my horse used SMB's.

I use them only when jumping - whether it be at comps or schooling.

Again, I like them because they absorb the shock - and my horses legs are very important to me.
     
    04-29-2009, 08:51 PM
  #16
Trained
I tried to edit my above post, but I couldn't because I took longer than 10 minutes.....so I am going to retype what I wanted to say:

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Yeah - those are the Splint Boots that I used to use back in my Pony Club Days.

We as Eventers need to ask ourselves - WHAT PROTECTION are we giving our horses legs, joints, muscles, tendons???

- Are the boots we are putting on absorbing the shock?
- Are they preventing knocks and bumps and strikes?
- Are they protecting the leg to the best of their abillity?
- Are these boots Protecting? Preserving? Preventing?

MOST splint boots do not. That includes the basic splints, and most woof boots we see, and most open front jumping boots. While these protect from knocks and bumps - they do not absorb shock.

That's why I love SMB's beacuse they've been proven to do their job - which is absorb the shock, prevent knocks and bumps. But support?? Studdies have proven they offer minimal support just like any other boot on the market.

There is really no boot on the market today that offers the support that people believe. That inclused SMB's. Studdies have shown that they offer just as much as any other boot on the market.

I go to Richland Park - and I see Eventing Horses in SMB's *Richland Park is a CIC/CCI*** Course* here in Michigan where 4 star eventers come and ride their younger horses or clients horses who arent at the Rolex levels. Many from around the you.S come here who are serious competators.

I've seen 3 star horse in SMB's and I've seen Prelim Horses in SMB's. I see SMB's on horse ranging from Novice to 3 star.

I also see quite a few other types of boots, but splints are going out the door because they do not hold or withstand
     
    04-29-2009, 09:23 PM
  #17
Green Broke
Again, it is your preferance to use SMBs and mine to use Woof. I think that God created horses legs to support them in all situations, even XC. He created them to carry humans around and do work for them, so I see no need to add anything else to my horse's legs.
     
    04-29-2009, 11:47 PM
  #18
Trained
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I think that God created horses legs to support them in all situations, even XC.
God did not create horses to do the strenuous work that us humans put these man made creations through. The domesticated horse, is not compareable to the wild horse.

As I've said before, there have been many University Studdies that show the wear and tear our horses go through with these strenuous sports. The shock that their joints go through is far greater than what they go through out in the wild - SO we as the responsible one's MUST take care of them to the best of our abillities.

Our horses legs are conditioned through proper flat work and through proper conditioning - BUT no ammount of conditioning will prevent leg injuries and arthritus and joints breaking down before they should - especially when doing these strenuous sports.

So, using proper protection on our horses will prevent, protect and preserve - far more, than letting them be bare when doing these strenuous sports.
     
    04-30-2009, 12:02 AM
  #19
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Meh to each his own I say. While I DO use boots in any competition b/c horses tend to overreact when stressed or excited, I am a firm believed in schooling w/o boots to allow the horse to build up strength and conditioning. Much like racehorses will benefit from conditioning over varying terrain, so will any other equine athlete. By not always using support, the soft tissue as well as the bones will remodel according to the presented stress, and go from there. While there are studies that show boots such as SMBs offer minimal support, there are also studies that show the opposite. My bigger concerns XC however is finding a boot that does not retain water, thus increasing the chance of a bowed tendon or other leg injury (check ligament, suspensory, etc.).

If you disagree, I suggest you put your horse's SMBs (or ANY boots for that matter) and jog around, then jog through knee-deep water, then continue to jog afterwards and get a feel for the weight of the boots on YOUR legs and see if it adds or decreases stress. As most XC courses have water obstacles of some sort (esp in the higher levels) it would seem that these aren't a good idea. I haven't competed at the higher levels myself, so can not speak from personal experience, but I CAN speak to the jogging through water exercise and it's certainly MUCH harder on the other side of the water ;)

Ulster boots are very popular XC b/c they do not retain water, but I'm not sure that they stil make them. I forgot but there are a few other brands as well - I'll see what I can find if anyone is interested.
     
    04-30-2009, 12:24 AM
  #20
Trained
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Meh to each his own I say.
I agree totally. To each their own, use what you want.


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While I DO use boots in any competition b/c horses tend to overreact when stressed or excited, I am a firm believed in schooling w/o boots to allow the horse to build up strength and conditioning.
Right, that's why I only use boots when I am jumping. I never put boots on when I do flatwork/dressage - or hacking. Plus my guy is out 24/7 on 15 acres of pasture so he gets allot of movement without any boots on.
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My bigger concerns XC however is finding a boot that does not retain water, thus increasing the chance of a bowed tendon or other leg injury (check ligament, suspensory, etc
I have a friend who's WB just bowed his tendon from galloping around the pasture.

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I suggest you put your horse's SMBs (or ANY boots for that matter) and jog around, then jog through knee-deep water, then continue to jog afterwards and get a feel for the weight of the boots on YOUR legs and see if it adds or decreases stress. As most XC courses have water obstacles of some sort (esp in the higher levels) it would seem that these aren't a good idea.
Understandable, but we aren't 1400lb animals with 4 legs. We cannot compare ourselves to our horses.

It doesn't matter what boot you use - just be educated on the proper care and prevention for your horses legs.
     

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