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  • Procraft sports medicine boots for horses
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    04-30-2009, 12:01 AM
  #21
Started
I've heard good and bad about the SMBs, and while yes, it's harder on us than on horses, if we can feel a difference in the weight, and horses can feel a fly land on their skin....well you see where I am going with this.

I can't find proof that waterlogged boots can cause bowed tendons, however, so I stand by my opinion as just that - an opinion lol. I have used them to help horses recover from injuries as well. There's some others that do a great job of dissipating heat as well as providing support and protection that I prefer over the SMBs. Actually there are SO many options that I say most importantly, use what fits well and works well for YOUR specific horse.
     
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    04-30-2009, 11:05 AM
  #22
Trained
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I've heard good and bad about the SMBs
I have as well. I actually spent quite allot of time last night after this discussion, sitting up in bed with the laptop on my lap....lol......going through articles. I didn't get to sleep till 4:00am....how sad.....

I found articles written by Veterinarians and University Studdies on all types of boots - ranging from the Splints to SMB's to Woof's to Polo's and Open Fronts.

No matter what boots was discussed, the Vets always stressed how important proper and thorough conditioning is for our horses.
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There's some others that do a great job of dissipating heat as well as providing support and protection that I prefer over the SMBs
I will agree with you. SMB's aren't that great for allowing the heat to escape, due to the 3 layer system that they offer.

I found this one studdy in particular where they discussed the heat absorbtion and how it can lead to negative effects on our horses legs. David Marlin, BSc, PhD says that the heat caused by some boots can lead to tendon inflammation and even cell death.




"Example of a test researchers used to determine release of heat. On left, thermographic images of a cold boot applied to a hot leg show that heat is kept in. On right, a hot boot applied to a cool leg releases heat."

NOW on that note - I look at allot of Eventing Boots that are on the market. Boots that I do see Mid to Higher Level Eventers using - and majority of them are lined with Neoprene.

Look at the Porter Protector - these are BIG with eventers. They are a wrap made out of Neoprene with holes in them - looks like a big slice of Swiss Cheese, instead black.

Porter Protector - Dover Saddlery...

When you wrap them up with that thin elastic wrap - now you have the same idea as the SMB.

So isn't that retaining the heat as well?

There are many boots on the market, even a new Eventing Boot that Woof has made, that is even lined with Neoprene.

What the Neoprene does, is aid in the shock absorption. So that is why Event boots are designed with this in them.

Another studdy done by Hilary Clayton, BVMS, PhD, Professor of large animal clinical sciences at Michigan State University and the first incumbent of the McPhail Dressage Chair in Equine Sports Medicine, says that

"Mainly we use boots for protection from knocks," says Clayton. "For this purpose, boots work quite well. People also use boots for support; however, this doesn't work. Tight wraps or boots will limit flexion of the joints during the swing phase, but they have not been shown to restrict sinking of the fetlock for more than a few strides.

According to my definition, support of the leg can be equated with the ability to limit sinking of the fetlock during weight-bearing. People who use boots are those who anticipate their horse may be subject to traumatic injury--polo players and eventers for sure. And boots are appropriate for young horses that are not yet well coordinated. Boots and wraps may be useful for other horses, but to my mind that's more an issue of what the individual trainer believes."

Boots and wraps can actually cause damage in some cases. "It has been hypothesized that overheating of the tendon core is one of the factors predisposing to tendon damage," says Clayton. "When a horse wears wraps or boots, the heat produced in the tendon has less opportunity to dissipate by radiation, conduction, or convection--so there may be more heat buildup.

Certainly when you take off sports medicine-type boots, the horse's legs are very hot and sweaty. That's not to say these boots are totally bad--I think they give good protection against direct trauma--much better than polo wraps. But I do advise people to take them off as soon as possible after exercise and to cold-hose or ice the legs to get rid of excess heat as quickly as possible."


"Sports medicine boots are touted to extend the working lives of horses which might otherwise face long rehabilitation, and to prevent injuries to working horses. This is mainly because they work to absorb shock from interference and hoof concussion. They do that by encasing the leg from the knee down and surround the fetlock in high-density neoprene that can take a hit and dissipate the energy.
The sports medicine boot is the only type of boot to have university studies supporting its use. The University of Oklahoma did a study for the first sports medicine boot company, Professional's Choice. They found that this company's boot absorbed 26% of hoof concussion, which is four times more than traditional boots and wraps. "

So again, we go back to what Vets are stressing - one vet who works at Rolex every year wrote an article on this - conditioning is really important. He also mentioned these new fandangled pads that are out, that you put on your horses feet, which aid in absorbing the shock. Interesting.

Anyways - as I read in another article:

"No matter what type of boots or wraps you use on your horse, you must be careful that they don't cause harm. Inspect the horse's leg(s) before and after each workout, and check that the boot or wrap is still functioning to protect the horse and hasn't developed cracks or broken fasteners. Be cautious using a new boot or wrap for the first time during a competition, as a new boot can feel different to the horse and alter his way of going. All equipment should be tried at home to make sure it fits properly and is durable."
     
    04-30-2009, 12:23 PM
  #23
Weanling
As I have stated before in a previous post, I was instructed by my vet that my gelding would always have to wear his SMBs while working because he bowed his two front tendons last year (free lease gone horribly wrong!). He had a few months off, and is now quite sound. No jumping, but we still do flat work, trails, and will start team penning again this summer. I've noticed that if he goes a few days without working, his lower front legs seems to stock up. When I take the boots off after working with the SMBs for an hour, his legs are flat and smooth, and the bow is hard to see. I've never heard anything about boots not having any effect, much less doing more harm than good, until I recieved the Horse Newsletter with the above mentioned article in it. Based on my results, I'm going to keep using the boots. I think in my case, they really are doing more for Chance than if he was working without them.

Also, as far as the SMBs absorbing water, I have the Elites and I haven't noticed any water absorbtion at all. Even after a trail ride where we ride through creeks, when I take the boots off they're still as light as when I put them on.
     
    04-30-2009, 12:34 PM
  #24
Green Broke
What does everyone think of these for jumping, just to give support to the tendons and such? They are kinda cheap which is why I'm wondering...

Pro-Craft Sport Boots - Horse.com

They would just be to use for shows...I use polo wraps when we're just schooling the jumps...although that may change when we are taking on bigger jumps...I don't believe polos give too good of support, although better than nothing.
     
    04-30-2009, 08:52 PM
  #25
Green Broke
Well after MUCH debate and researching everywhere online, I came across and finally ordered a pair of these in baby blue They are regularly $40.00 but are on clearance at horse.com for $14.99!!! They may not be the highest quality but they'll be a good start and for the price to try them out I just couldn't pass them up!

Pro-Craft Sport Boots - Horse.com
     
    05-01-2009, 09:35 PM
  #26
Started
Just a note - be careful with pro-craft. I've had a few blankets of theirs and had them literally fall apart at the seams. However I've never used their boots - so I just say watch them and make sure the seams are all good after each use so that they don't start to weaken and end up causing more harm than good. I can't imagine it would be a huge issue, but just wanted to share in case.
     
    05-02-2009, 07:55 AM
  #27
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by CJ82Sky    
Just a note - be careful with pro-craft. I've had a few blankets of theirs and had them literally fall apart at the seams. However I've never used their boots - so I just say watch them and make sure the seams are all good after each use so that they don't start to weaken and end up causing more harm than good. I can't imagine it would be a huge issue, but just wanted to share in case.
Thank you for the heads up CJ! I'll definitely keep a close eye on them and let everyone know...they were just too good to pass up at less than 1/2 regular price (and the color I wanted too) In the future I'd like to invest in a really good pair of Professional's Choice sport boots, but for now since I have not even shown yet (first show on June 21st!), I'd like to see what Sandie and I think of it before I invest in something that expensive!

New question for the forum though - when you jump with sport boots/whatever boot you prefer, do you put them on just the front legs, or all 4 legs - what is your preference and why?
     
    05-04-2009, 10:12 PM
  #28
Green Broke
I ALWAYS boot or wrap all four legs whenever I ride! I use either my polos(Only flat derssage work on days when it is perfectly dry) or my Woof AP boots. Blue's back legs are spaced alittle close together so I have to keep her safe from nicks.
     
    05-04-2009, 10:39 PM
  #29
Trained
Cute boots Hoofprints! And in Baby Blue - those are my Eventing colors you know! Lucky girl! I cannot wait to see piccies of your beautiful boy wearing them!

And I only boot the fronts when I use them.
     
    05-05-2009, 11:43 AM
  #30
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by MIEventer    
Cute boots Hoofprints! And in Baby Blue - those are my Eventing colors you know! Lucky girl! I cannot wait to see piccies of your beautiful boy wearing them!

And I only boot the fronts when I use them.
Yours too - how neat!! She's actually a mare though, I make her wear blue anyway lol...she has 2 colors, one is purple and the other baby blue...but I like the baby blue on her so much, that's going to be our eventing colors too! I have a blue polo shirt to match a blue saddle pad and those blue boots! Now I just have to hope we have a good show experience...it will be a first for both of us!

Do you have any pics of you eventing in your baby blues?? I'd love to see them!
     

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