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post #31 of 37 Old 05-20-2010, 01:07 PM
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Ive read through this and from what I've heard about this trainer I'm doubting her ability to train horses or riders and if what she is teaching is correct.
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Ive read through this and from what I've heard about this trainer I'm doubting her ability to train horses or riders and if what she is teaching is correct.
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Okay, this kinda ticked me off. You know nothing about her ability to train horses or riders. Please don't assume that because she doesn't know tack and how to use Ace that she's a bad trainer. Not you specifically, everyone reading and posting in this thread. She is not, by any standard. Even her green horses are some of the most well trained horses I have ever met.

Also, can we PLEASE stop this discussion? I asked a simple question- will I still be able to collect my horse- and it turned into a bunch of people telling me that my trainer is misled and I should leave her. Yes, she's misled. No, I'm not going to leave her. In fact, learning this way has HELPED ME learn about tack and the way horses are more than I would because I went out and researched everything about horses. Jeez, it seems like whenever I say anything about riding everyone gangs up on my riding ability and my trainer.

Side note: I'm kinda going through a lot of mental stress right now IRL. I've been getting so stressed that I've gotten random angry streaks and bouts of suicidal depression. This thread hasn't particularly helped as I always thought of riding as the one thing I kind of had RIGHT with life, and apparently I'm wrong. I'm not trying to guilt anyone, and if I am, I apologize, but I would really, really, REALLY love it if we could not talk about my trainer being "subpar" with tack and some other things. Thank you.


Question: Why is it that my horse runs around crazily more when she has a running martingale?
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Im sorry you've been going though alot, I know how it feels. We all are just expressing our opnions, that's all.

To answer your question. The standing is very restrictive, so it's harder to run through. It's keeping the horse from using it's head and neck. Pictures of how 'loose' it is would help.
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Tymer,

Sorry to be adding to your stress.

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Question: Why is it that my horse runs around crazily more when she has a running martingale?


Without seeing the horse go, I can only make an educated guess. My first guess would be that the running martingale is adjusted a little too short, and is putting downward pressure on the bars of her mouth. Since she can't figure out a way to give to the pressure and release it, she gets frantic and runs around crazily.

When the horse is traveling normally, with its head and neck in its usual position, there should be no downward break in the reins from the running martingale. The running martingale should only come into play if the horse raises its head dramatically. Check it and see - if there is a downward break in the reins when she's standing or holding her head normally, adjust it till there isn't.

Also, you mentioned something earlier about the rings of the running martingale being on the curb reins? Not sure; but normally, they go on the snaffle rein, so if they're on the curb rein, the effect is more severe. In this case, more severe may equal more frantic.

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@Stormy: Looser than this. Like...Most of them I believe are have slack under the horse's stomach. I think you're right, but I'm not sure because....
@Maura: I didn't quite understand what you meant. The rings are somewhere in the middle of her neck and aren't taut or anything.

To clarify, she doesn't randomly run around on the flat. Its just when she gets speedy during jumping like she always does, she doesn't break down easily fights any attempts to do so.
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A standing martingale, when adjusted correctly, should be able to be pushed up and touch the horse's jaw.
EquestrianHow2 Blog Archive How to Adjust a Standing Martingale
A running martingale's rings should, when pulled straight up, reach the withers.


I'm sorry, but if a trainer tells you that all horses should be ridden in gags, doesn't know much about equipment, and ACEs horses to be ridden, yes, I do question their ability to teach.


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A standing martingale, when adjusted correctly, should be able to be pushed up and touch the horse's jaw.
EquestrianHow2 Blog Archive How to Adjust a Standing Martingale
A running martingale's rings should, when pulled straight up, reach the withers.

I'm sorry, but if a trainer tells you that all horses should be ridden in gags, doesn't know much about equipment, and ACEs horses to be ridden, yes, I do question their ability to teach.
Thanks, I'll see next time I'm at the barn.

I understand why you think that way and honestly, I don't think she's a bad trainer. She makes some poor decisions (like putting "bad" and "green" horses in gag bits [I was wrong about the "all" statement I later found out]) but is actually a great trainer. I respect your opinion though.
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