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    01-07-2013, 06:38 PM
Broken saddle help please!

I live smack dab in the middle of Orlando, Florida.
I just bought a saddle from a friend and it had been sitting in her garage for a year collecting dust.
It didn't dawn on me to check everything before I left, and when I got home I noticed the D-ring for the girth is gone! The leather had dry-rotted away!

From what i'm told it's a synthetic barrel saddle.
I paid $175 for it and the only repair shop I could get in contact with said it would cost $200 to fix it?!
My friend said she'd pay for the repair, but it would be like her paying me to tak her saddle!

Does anyone know if I could repair this myself?
I'll attach pictures!

That's the good ring^

These two are the broken one ^

And that's the saddle its self! If anyone can offer me some help, I will gladly appreciate it!
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    01-07-2013, 06:38 PM
Sorry! I just realized those pictures were huge!
    01-07-2013, 06:43 PM
Not to sound harsh, but, I don't think it's worth the money to repair. Also some saddle shops won't repair low quality saddles. Too much liability.
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    01-07-2013, 07:13 PM

That is an all leather saddle from India

Problem is, because they use water buffalo leather, the other side will break or one of the fenders will break or the tree will break soon.

Hate to say it but cut your losses and do not repair it.

    01-07-2013, 07:45 PM
If you want a cheaper fix, keep looking for smaller repair shops.

I know a couple amish & menonite places that would patch it to make it useable, it looks as though you could sew a new patch of leather onto the frayed tabs, then the D ring onto the new patch. Like I said it would be a patch work job but better than putting $200 into a saddle that might not be worth that to you
    01-08-2013, 03:43 PM
I want to try and keep this saddle if I can because i've already put a lot of work in to it.

If anyone can tell me how to do this repair, I would greatly appreciate it.
I've looked at the entire saddle and the ONLY things that needed repairs are the d-ring riggings and the sturrup adjustment buckles, which i've already fixed.
    01-09-2013, 10:11 PM
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The thing is is now a safety issue. If the leather rotted away, then it is also in danger of failing in other places. IF it was a good quality saddle to begin with, then yes, it would be worth fixing, but in this case, I do not think it is.

Up to you of course, but if it were me, I would tell her the repairs are too costly, and there are possibly other issues with saddle that you are not equipped to handle, or pay for.

But all in all, if you fix this and ride this, you will be hitting the dirt quickly. Just not worth a broken bone, or a hearse ride to me.
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    01-09-2013, 10:33 PM
Well, what I see here is a perfect learning oppertunity. To properly repair that rigging, you'll need to remove the skirt. There are the obvious conchos that need removed, there will be screws or nails from the underside threw the wool. And the back of the skirt will need to be unlaced. With out having it in front of me, chances are there will be a few nails or srcews hidden away near the pommel etc. once all fasteners are unlaced or removed, you'll likely have really pull the skirt off the tree to clear it from the pockets. Once the skirt is off, you can start removing the seat. Which may of been loosened already by removing the skirt. Now you can get to the tree to replace that rigging. And the other side too as its probly shot also. You can do it your self and will know a lot more about saddles. And once this saddle is apart you'll likely see why it's a CHEAP saddle. And may
Decide to cut your losses or go ahead and repair it. Either way you'll learn a lot. ( that's a very very basic over view and just a basic start)
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    01-09-2013, 10:47 PM
I wouldn't put the work into it, nor would I even throw it on a horse. I worked at a local saddle shop that buys used saddles and I was told to turn down all saddles that, well looked like that. This entire saddle is a safety hazard, many are held together by merely carpet tacks. The leather is cheap, the fenders are riveted on, not run through the skirting, and the riggin will eventually pull out on you. I'd say eat the money and not take the risk. That saddle is an accident waiting to happen.
    01-09-2013, 10:56 PM
It’s a bit hard to tell since the photos are big and a bit blurry but you can fix it if you know how, and it isn’t that hard; whether it’s worth fixing is the issue.
Firstly, if the leather there is rotten, you can bet its rotten elsewhere too, and so the whole lot might be a write off; and if it is a cheap saddle from India, it probably isn’t worth the effort. But, if you were intent on fixing it what you will have to do is completely replace all the leather on the rigging, on both sides. (and it almost looks like it has full double rigging too, by the way, so you will be needing to put on a flank girth).
What you will have to do is to undo all the conchos on the seat, so the ones where the keepers are, the ones under the swell and the ones under the cantle. Once you have done this you SHOULD be able to pull the seat back and see under it, there might be a few nails you have to pull out, or a screw or two or three, or four as well.
This should expose the rigging. There is a range of ways the front rigging like that can be attached to a saddle, if that is a bad saddle then there will only be a little bit of leather and a screw (this is really bad and weak, if it has that setup make a different type). But basically what you can do is pull the original rigging off and make new rigging from new leather and put it back where the old bit was. (it’s a kind of pay attention to how it comes apart so you can put it back together right deal)
If the rigging is OK, in terms of how it attaches to the saddle, other than being rotten, get some skirting leather and make an exact copy of the broken rigging and put it all back together just the way it came apart. If it is a bid dodgy you may have to design a new set up.
Things to be very aware of is keeping it all in the right place, keeping the placement in the same place on each side of the saddle, and if you have to redesign it, to make sure there is enough stability for the rigging rings and dispersion of pressure as the saddle is tightened.
A final option, depending on how well you can stitch leather and use rivets, and a knife, would be to put in-skirt front rigging on the saddle. This would involve getting a couple of flat rigging plates (Ill ad a photo), cutting out a bit of skirt to place them in, sewing the cut part together, punching holes through both bits of the skirts, slipping the plates in place and riveting them in.
The down side with this will be that the saddle probably isn’t designed for in-skirt rigging and you could rip the whole skirts off while you are riding in it.
Actually, you would be better off getting your money back from your friend and getting a better saddle.

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