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    11-22-2011, 07:55 PM
  #41
Trained
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Originally Posted by bubba13
For the people saying you can't get the holes to line up....that tells me you have the wrong size cinch for your horse.
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Originally Posted by Northernmama
Nope. The location of / distance between the holes is not related to the length of the cinch.
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Originally Posted by bubba13
No, but whether or not the holes line up with the cinch buckle sure does...
? None of this is making any sense to me. How would the size of the cinch determine whether or not the holes line up with the buckle?
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    11-22-2011, 09:14 PM
  #42
Weanling
I vary, depending on the situation and the horse. I normally tie, but it is probably more habit than anything else.
     
    11-22-2011, 09:17 PM
  #43
Started
I've done it both ways. It's all a matter of preference. If you prefer to tie it, then tie it. If you prefer to buckle it, then buckle it.

I tell ya. Y'all could argue over the color of the sky.
     
    11-22-2011, 09:31 PM
  #44
Banned
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Originally Posted by COWCHICK77    
I tried Googling the elusive "740 knot" as well....I am at a loss

But I tried to find images on the internet for what I was trying to explain and couldn't find it either. And the method we use is pretty common in our neck of the woods.

However I did find an image of what I call a "farmer knot" or "California knot"..
I buckle on the right and tie on the left. And the knot I use is the same knot pictured, only I prefer to do it the opposite way. Meaning go across, up, through, and down from MY right side. But the same knot. I never had a name for it though.


I hope that makes sense.
     
    11-22-2011, 09:39 PM
  #45
Trained
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Originally Posted by COWCHICK77    
I tried Googling the elusive "740 knot" as well....I am at a loss

But I tried to find images on the internet for what I was trying to explain and couldn't find it either. And the method we use is pretty common in our neck of the woods.

However I did find an image of what I call a "farmer knot" or "California knot"..
Could you take a picture of the way you tie your cinch? Years ago an old-timer showed me how to tie the knot your talking about but I have forgotten how. I've never tied a cinch except on a pack saddle. I've also never had a cinch come undone. This week I've roped twelve head of 5-700 lb cattle and my saddle never moved. Some latigos don't have holes or don't have enough holes but that's quite easy to fix. Buy a hole punch and punch some holes.
     
    11-22-2011, 09:57 PM
  #46
Banned
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Originally Posted by NorthernMama    
? None of this is making any sense to me. How would the size of the cinch determine whether or not the holes line up with the buckle?
If the cinch is too long, you can wrap the latigo around so many times that it bunches up and/or you get too thick with all the layers, while still bypassing all of your holes and being unable to buckle. I've had this happen when trying to ride a standard donkey. I couldn't even tie it, either, because there was too much bulk with the overwrapped, bulging latigo. I just wrapped it tight and checked it frequently for loosening.

If the cinch is too short, the holes bypass the first loop but won't reach the second, so again you can't buckle. I ran into the latter problem a lot with my 32" cinch and the hugely obese 1300+ lb Appaloosas I was riding. I'd end up either having to let the cinch way out on the off-billet side, thus making it uneven, or give in and tie.
     
    11-22-2011, 10:46 PM
  #47
Started
I tie no matter what, nylon or leather.
     
    11-23-2011, 08:39 PM
  #48
Trained
AH! Thank you Bubba. I understand now. I was on a completely different wave length. I have never buckled a western cinch so the whole looping and buckling combined thing was throwing me off.
     
    11-23-2011, 08:54 PM
  #49
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by kevinshorses    
Could you take a picture of the way you tie your cinch? Years ago an old-timer showed me how to tie the knot your talking about but I have forgotten how. I've never tied a cinch except on a pack saddle. I've also never had a cinch come undone. This week I've roped twelve head of 5-700 lb cattle and my saddle never moved. Some latigos don't have holes or don't have enough holes but that's quite easy to fix. Buy a hole punch and punch some holes.
I can do that!!!
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    11-23-2011, 09:42 PM
  #50
Foal
Cowchick77 I was wondering the same thing as Kevinshorses, I was thinking it was the quick release way of tieing a latigo in a round ring rigging.

My wades are flat plate rigged and the D is built in so you couldn't tie if you wanted to. The whole buckle or tie issue and the single or double rigged debate is like arguing politics or religion, you're best to stick with what you like best and leave it at that.
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