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post #11 of 20 Old 10-15-2008, 07:03 PM Thread Starter
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Awesome! Thanks for the info. I am going to the swap with one of my instructors. She has showed me how to measure the gullet and she will be there to provide information and feedback if I need it.

So, I have a huge bum... What type of saddle would suit me best?

AMY, I will read that website top to bottom tonight.
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post #12 of 20 Old 10-15-2008, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Moxie View Post
What type of saddle would suit me best?
Not to sound obnoxious but, one that fits you. Since you will have the opportunity to try them then see which feels better. I prefer a ranch saddle with a high cantle (see my gallery pics) for trail riding. A hard seat saddle is really very comfortable and is a more expensive saddle to make so you might want to consider one like that.

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post #13 of 20 Old 10-15-2008, 08:55 PM Thread Starter
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Not obnoxious at all! Thank you for all of your help Iride!
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post #14 of 20 Old 10-16-2008, 10:32 AM
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What size of saddle do you use in your lessons? Western saddles typically come in 15-16-17-18" varieties...there are of course smaller and above 16 they get harder to find. But there are 17's and a few 18's out there. I have heard of larger than an 18 but they are rare. ( Above 18 the skirts of the saddles have a chance of getting into the horse's hips and loin area...basically the saddle is too long to fit the horse properly.)
Of course, I'm talking in general here...there's always exceptions

I like the smooth seats. The plain leather "hard" seats are really a lot more comfy than you would think. I also like just regular leather stitched seats. The sueded seats are ok...but they give me wedgies. My hubby likes his sueded seat very much and he feels like he has more "grip". I can't hang on with my cheeks so I like being able to get up and down easier with the smooth seats. For this reason I don't care for rough out fenders either. I have ridden in 1 saddle with a rough out seat and fenders and everytime I went to get off the saddle the fenders would grab my shirt and lift it as I got down...:roll: Boobs and saddles and untucked shirts don't always mix.

As far as the cantle goes, I like a med high cantle. I don't like the ones where you feel like there is nothing there and I don't like the ones that are very high. I like to know I have a speedbump behind me bum not a wall...make sence??? I also don't do any penning or sorting of cattle or any speed sports where I would want a better seat that the high high cantles offer. Plus, my kids ride double some times so we just try to stay middle of the road on the cantle. Not a good reason , just what we do.

Don't get hung up on girths when shopping for a saddle, those can always be replaced. As can some of the cinchstraps. The more I pay for a saddle the more I want intact. Like the barrel saddle I bought for $125 at an auction...It needed a new girth and off side cinch...Cheap fixes for a solid saddle at a good price. But, If I were to have paid $200 for it, I would want the riggin to be in better shape. And the concho that was missing on the saddle I'd have wanted that intact. I'm picky and cheap. I would have passed up that saddle if they wanted a nickel over $125. I seem to be rambeling. Just holler if you have any more questions. I'll get my ducks in a row and try to help, best I can!

Ok, so now that I have thoroughly embarrased myself! LOL That's what I look for.

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post #15 of 20 Old 10-16-2008, 10:52 AM Thread Starter
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LOL Amy you crack me up! My shirt almost ALWAYS goes up every time I get out of the saddle. I am far too self conscious to tuck my shirt in.

I do believe the saddle I normally ride in is a 16, but I think a 16.5 or even a 17 would be better. I fit in it alright, but I hate to say it, my huge butt gets pushed up, so...

The lesson I had on Tues. I rode in a Aussie saddle, first time riding a gaited horse, and a first time ridding in something other than a western saddle. She told me that your legs should touch the tree? Anyway.. The saddle I normally ride in, part of my butt gets pushed up, and my legs touch the tree. I think maybe a half size larger would be best.

I am a timid rider, and I want to feel secure in the saddle, so if the horse spooks, I want to know I'm not coming out of it with out a lot of force. When I came out of the saddle with Fritz, I was completely relaxed, my feet were out of the stirrup's, and really was just not paying attention. So, when he spooked, he ran one way, and I landed on the ground in the opposite direction.

Since then, I have been more tense in the saddle (I've been getting better), and it's really hard for me to relax. I know it's a bit off topic, but I'd like for everyone to know where I am coming from.

Anyway, I just want a saddle I know I'll feel secure in. Something that I fit in, and something for a reasonable price. And maybe... JUST maybe, if I start gathering tack, it'll help ease the anxiousness I have about having to wait a year to own.
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First off owning tack will be addin fuel to a fire that is already burning!

My hubby rides in a 16" with a sueded seat... It didn't keep his tush in the saddle when a turkey flushed and the horse ran/spooked out from underneath him. (sounds like what Fritz did to you with the water)

Saddles don't come with seatbelts...You're gonna eat dirt from time to time.

I would look for a 17" then. A 1/2" won't be of much service...that can be taken up with the high cantle. Perhaps that's why I don't mind the mid range allows for spillage. My tushie has seen smaller days too.

Technically you should be able to fit a fist in front of you...I think behind you too...but that's not always practical or able to be done.

I would just make sure you're comfortable...I'm still on the look out for a 17" for myself, I'd like a bit more room too...I like to take lots of stuff with me and *sigh* I'm still a smoker and my smokes get squished in my back much of a reason to buy a bigger saddle but hey...LOL.

Synthetics can be good first saddles too. I have a fabtron that is a good saddle tho it is almost too narrow in the gullet for my horses. I like the fabric fenders...There is very little fender torque with the fabric fenders and that eases the pain/strain on the knees.

I know Abeta makes a synthetic saddle in an 18"...I have seen it at a local farm/tack store. Seems to me it ran less than $300...I can't remember the exact price. AND that was for brand spankin' new.

Vida rode in an Abeta for a while...if memory serves it hurt her butt after a long ride. I'd ask her for sure rather than depending on my memory why she switched over to a custom saddle. There are many manufacturers that make seat cushions tho...

There are SO many things to take into consideration when buying a saddle and it's hard to know what you will like until you have actually ridden in one for a while. It has to fit you AND the horse. If it only fits the horse it could be throwing YOU off balance and effecting the horse's performance.
If it only fits you, well..same goes for the horse....It's uncomfortable and hurting him too.

Just make sure you aren't paying too much for the saddle. That way if you need to sell it, you won't be taking a huge loss on it.

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A good used saddle price really depends on the saddle. Maybe try going an area tack store to scope out prices of new and used there... gives you a rough idea.

For an everyday saddle I personally like the 'training" type saddle. They are usually heavier built and hold up really nice. I purchased a Rocking R training saddle a few years ago and I love it. It is a suede seat with the rough out leather. I keep it well oiled and rain doesnt seem to bother it much. I paid around $850 for it new. I had to 'train" the stirupps in but it wasnt a big deal. It fits both of my horses well and I like it as well.

If the saddle is a true full QH bars it should fit most QHs, and stock-type breeds.

I would stay away from western saddles made in like Mexico, etc... they dont seem to hold up and the resale value is not there.

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Friend of mine (who has a huge bum ) got Circle Y and is very happy with it. I think TexTan also have a pretty big seat. I personally really liked Alamo and Bill Cook, but their seats are more narrow. For Circle Y anything in a very good condition under $700 is a good deal.
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i have a huge bum and fit in my tex tan, i also have a custom made hardeman (sp) that i fit in to, we also have a Synthetic saddle too ( cant remember make off it) i find that comfertable, on avrage we spend any where from 300 to about 2,500 on a saddle......i'm on the hunt for a another english saddle.....
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post #20 of 20 Old 10-18-2008, 10:41 AM
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I usually get the saddle after I buy the horse. Idk, I just want it to fit them. LOL! Nothing wrong with getting one before, that is probably good too.

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