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post #1 of 12 Old 09-22-2012, 07:11 PM Thread Starter
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Question Can we talk bits?

Seems I have a bit issue with my mare. I currently have her in a loose ring that has a lozenge. I started her off in a full cheek single joint - that didn't work. Then went to a loose ring with a single joint - that one didn't work either. So what she's doing right now with her current bit is she is balking, tossing her head, pulling/rooting, holds her head high, and tries to run away.

I tried her in a bitless for a week and had no issues at all! She was on her best behavior and didn't miss a single cue! Then today, just to see, I put the bit back in and same issues as before. But I can't show in a bitless.....

Soooooo - what are dressage legal bits that might be worth a try? I honestly don't know what to try - or what to even consider.

Oh, and before anyone asks - yes her teeth are good. Just had them done about a month ago.
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post #2 of 12 Old 09-22-2012, 08:21 PM
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Have you tried something other than a loose ring? I very recently witnessed a horse instantly go from a bit avoiding, head tossing, nightmare in a loose ring to an angel in an eggbutt version of the same bit. The loose ring was simply moving around too much in his mouth and it drove him nuts. The eggbutt keeps the bit more fixed and has no chance of pinching the corners of the mouth.

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how long have you had her and when were her teeth done last?
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I have tried her in a single jointed full cheek and she just about chewed through it! So I figured to try the single jointed loose ring, but she chewed on that one heavily too. So I then figured she must not like the single joint, so I switched to the lozenge. She's not chewing on it, but she doesn't like it either. I will see if there is anyone at the farm who has an eggbutt that won't mind if I give it a try. Thanks for pointing that out :)
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I've had her since early spring. Her teeth were done about a month ago.
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Forgot to add, if she has a fat tongue, the lozenge might just be too big a piece for her. Maybe try and eggbutt french link.
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I have one more loose ring bit in my collection that I can try. It's thinner and has a small french link. Comparing the current one to that one, there is definitely a big difference as far as thickness and the lozenge looks huge compared to the french link.
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I had a horse that just couldn't handle the loose ring, he played with it and wasn't steady in the bridle. We switched to a somewhat narrow french link boucher, and it was like someone flipped a switch, he was light and responsive and soft. Might be worth a shot!

Showed up to third level in that bit, it is completely legal! And don't let the mini shank mislead you, there is no leverage action.

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I'd try different bit thicknesses- 10mm and thicker are dressage legal. If the thinner bit you mentioned doesn't work out, then maybe a mullen mouth? If you know someone who would let you borrow a KK Ultra, that might be worth a try as well (though they are too pricey to buy just to try!)
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I tried the thinner bit yesterday and she seemed very pleased with it. I was amazed in the change! She didn't balk or fight at all! I don't think she even moved her mouth. I have been looking at those boucher bits too as well as an eggbutt. But hopefully she will continue to like the one we used yesterday. Thanks everyone for your advice!
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