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        03-01-2009, 11:25 AM
      #21
    Yearling
    Ok.. I got a picture of my bit.. but I have three questions..

    1. What is this bit called?
    2.Where can I find this bit at?
    3.Some of you said you have never seen something like this bit in a western ring; so does that mean I can't use it in local horsemanship and showmanship classes?

    Thanks to all for the help..
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        03-01-2009, 11:39 AM
      #22
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by katieandduke    
    ok.. I got a picture of my bit.. but I have three questions..

    1. What is this bit called?
    2.Where can I find this bit at?
    3.Some of you said you have never seen something like this bit in a western ring; so does that mean I can't use it in local horsemanship and showmanship classes?

    Thanks to all for the help..
    That is an unjointed mullen mouth snaffle. Mostly an English bit.
         
        03-01-2009, 11:44 AM
      #23
    Weanling
    Your bit is a mullen mouth eggbutt snaffle. The mouth is copper, which is sometimes used to make a horse salivate or accept the bit. As Spydder said, this is mostly an English bit.

    I don't ride Western, so I can't answer the last question. You could try searching the internet to see which bits are allowed for showmanship and horsemanship. Most Western riders use pretty severe bits, but that doesnt mean you can't use a plain snaffle like you have. Ask around your barn...they might have the answer.
         
        03-01-2009, 11:57 AM
      #24
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Spyder    
    That is an unjointed mullen mouth snaffle. Mostly an English bit.

    O ok.. so that means to make it a western bit I would have to have shanks on the side? Thanks for the help!
         
        03-01-2009, 11:59 AM
      #25
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by eventnwithwinston    
    Your bit is a mullen mouth eggbutt snaffle. The mouth is copper, which is sometimes used to make a horse salivate or accept the bit. As Spydder said, this is mostly an English bit.

    I don't ride Western, so I can't answer the last question. You could try searching the internet to see which bits are allowed for showmanship and horsemanship. Most Western riders use pretty severe bits, but that doesnt mean you can't use a plain snaffle like you have. Ask around your barn...they might have the answer.
    well most of the people at my barn have my bit but with shanks or they have a curb bit.. I don't like the curb bits mostly because duke doesnt need it.. he does fine in this bit.. usually I am bitless with just a halter but on the road and stuff I need more control... so I guess I will have to get one with shanks.. I think..
         
        03-01-2009, 11:59 AM
      #26
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    Originally Posted by katieandduke    
    o ok.. so that means to make it a western bit I would have to have shanks on the side? Thanks for the help!
    I believe there are Western classes that don't use shanked bits.

    Someone will have to clarify that though.
         
        03-01-2009, 12:01 PM
      #27
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Spyder    
    I believe there are Western classes that don't use shanked bits.

    Someone will have to clarify that though.
    ok thanks spyder.. at the shows I will be doing horsemanship,showmanship,walk/trot,walk/jog/lope.. and many many trail classes.. it will be local shows.. no recognized shows yet.. so if anybody can tell me the specifics it will be great! Thanks again everybody!
         
        03-01-2009, 03:56 PM
      #28
    Trained
    Western riders don't normally ride in "Severe" bits. Shanked bits are considered a step up from plain snaffles and are ridden in with one hand and very light contact.
    A lot of the shows here, follow AQHA rules. If you are riding a horse under 5, you could use a plain snaffle like the one you have. Over 5 must be a shanked bit ridden with one hand.
    The showmanship classes are usually done with a halter.
    Horsemanship/Equitation are the same rules that I posted above.



    Also, speaking from my experience, most shows will not let you cross from Walk/Trot to Walk/Trot/Lope. If you are showing at a lope, they usually leave the walktrot classes to those who are not riding at the lope yet.

    Depends on where you show though.
         
        03-01-2009, 05:17 PM
      #29
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Spastic_Dove    
    Western riders don't normally ride in "Severe" bits. Shanked bits are considered a step up from plain snaffles and are ridden in with one hand and very light contact.
    A lot of the shows here, follow AQHA rules. If you are riding a horse under 5, you could use a plain snaffle like the one you have. Over 5 must be a shanked bit ridden with one hand.
    The showmanship classes are usually done with a halter.
    Horsemanship/Equitation are the same rules that I posted above.



    Also, speaking from my experience, most shows will not let you cross from Walk/Trot to Walk/Trot/Lope. If you are showing at a lope, they usually leave the walktrot classes to those who are not riding at the lope yet.

    Depends on where you show though.

    Thank you for the help... I did not know that about the walk/trot classes and stuff. I will have to check with the barns around here
         
        03-01-2009, 06:18 PM
      #30
    Yearling
    1-answered
    2-Anywhere online! :)
    3-You can only use this bit in your classes if you're allowed to use two-hands in your western classes. If you're only allowed to use one, then you have to switch to a bit with shanks--like the one you posted originally. As long as you're light and give your aids with your seat, legs, and the reins on the neck, the bit will be no 'harsher' then the one you are using now. These shanked bits are not used for control (well, they weren't SUPPOSED to be), it's more like a 'graduation' thing. Remember when you were little and you could only use the big fat crayons, and then when you proved you could color in the lines they gave you the skinny ones? Same idea. You give your horse something that's a little bit bigger and awkward so it clouds any wrong signals you may give. When you and your horse are both refined, then you graduate to a curb bit! :)
    SpasticDove also mentioned the 5-yr-old rule in AQHA--but I'm not sure if you show AQHA!
    You would definitely be able to use this in ENGLISH showmanship, but in western, you have to use a halter!

    Hope that helped. :)
         

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