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post #1 of 18 Old 05-20-2013, 12:53 AM Thread Starter
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Cheyenne Springs Tucker saddle keeps rolling when I try to mount

So I had originally bought this saddle for my 3/4 qh 1/4 tb mare, that I had fitted for a saddle and was told she would need a medium tree... I bought my saddle online from "horsesaddleshop" and it's a medium tree 166 Cheyenne Springs Tucker. I was of course in love with the Tucker saddles when I saw them in my local tack store, where the guy came from to fit my mare, but due to the price I said they were out of my price range. I found this one online for 1,200$ which was my price range...vs the 1,600$ this saddle would cost if I had bought it "new". Technically this one was suppose to be a "new" saddle, that had just been used in a store as a show saddle. So I was all over it, because it was a medium tree with a short skirt(recommended because my mare has a slightly short back)...

Turns out my mare(that I bought in Dec) was diagnosed with severe Navicular disease, after being misdiagnosed with a thin sole on her feet and minor white line infection by a different vet and farrier.

The couple times when I had tried the saddle on my mare, when I thought she was okay to ride and was just on the mend, the saddle rolled, just the back half though...the swell, by her whithers, was okay and stayed for the most part in place. The back of the saddle though was pretty far off.

I put my saddle away for a couple months and didn't think about it once I found out she had Navicular. Since finding another horse, and knowing he also needs a medium tree due to his thin build. I have pulled the saddle out again and have been using....trying... to use it.

but it also rolls on him, and comes off... I bought a smaller cinch to try tightening it more, and a new pad to see if it was my pad.
But no go, it still will roll to the side when I try to mount from the ground.

When I have rode him in it, or lunged him, I always check the sweat on his back for dry areas... in both saddle pads, the sweat has been consistent on his back, with no "dry" spots anywhere.

He never seems sore after riding either. He does not like when I try to mount from the ground because of the saddle rolling...can't really blame him for that. but after realizing the saddle rolls, I have got him to just stand beside a stool for me to mount from so I put less pressure on the saddle while mounting(and this works great).

I'm not the smallest person in the world, but I'm by far not the largest rider either... so I'm not sure if this has anything to do with it? Everybody assures me it doesn't...but I'm not sure if they're just being nice or not...

Here's a picture of me on him, when I went to go look at him, so I'm not in my saddle in the picture

Then here he is with my first saddle pad I used on him, also from my mare, a contoured ESP barrel saddle pad(only round pad I could find at my local tack shop, and was told it was okay for trail riding)

and here he is with the thinner pad I tried on him to see if it would help... it's a 1/4 -1/2 inch felt square mustang pad, with an acrylic double folded mayatex pad. so it was only 3/4 or 2/3 of an inch of padding vs the 1 and 1/4 of an inch with my other combo.


what I'm trying to figure out is.....what's up with this saddle?! and why doesn't it fit either of my horses that should be medium tree sized horses....!

info from online about this saddle:

I would love to have this saddle work, due to I'm in love with how it feels on my butt and I spent a lot (to me) of money on it. and I dropped it on concrete once so it has a scuff on the horn and by the cantle/roll...

Thanks for any help or suggestions! :)

(I will get another saddle if needed....I'm trying to find somebody to come fit him that is more helpful than the person who fit my mare)
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post #2 of 18 Old 05-20-2013, 01:07 AM
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Maybe take it to a saddle shop and have it inspected for a broken tree? You never really know what you're buying...

I'm not sure I'd worry too much if it's not hurting my horse or myself, though. I typically use a mounting aid (block or bench or ditch) just to spare my horse my blundering up with my excess weight. When I was trim and strong I didn't sweat it at all, but that's my current reality. My horse can more than handle it (as he did all day yesterday at a clinic) but to my mind, that doesn't mean he should, lol.
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I cant see in the picture but when you cinch up are you tyin the cinch in a cinch knot- or just loopin it through the riggin a few times and then pullin the access cinch through the holder?
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@hemms : if the tree is broke would it be obvious just looking at the saddle or feeling it? I never really thought about that...that the trees can break in them.

@toto : I do the "texas T" thing when I tie off the latigo. My latigo and cinch are too long to hook the cinch rigging through one of the latigo holes. I make sure my cinch is tight though, I lunge him or walk him around and then tighten it up again.
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i have been singularly unimpressed with Tucker saddles. my friend's Tucker will roll like that unless it is cinched real tight. I didn't like the fit of the saddle to MY backside , either. But that doesnt help you at all.
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Originally Posted by tinyliny View Post
i have been singularly unimpressed with Tucker saddles. my friend's Tucker will roll like that unless it is cinched real tight. I didn't like the fit of the saddle to MY backside , either. But that doesnt help you at all.

Did her saddle fit the horse properly but just roll when she mounted??

I'm so confused by these dumb Tuckers(yes I think they're dumb now, even if they are a beautiful color and pretty in the saddle shop, this has ticked me off I spent so much and probably would have been better off with something from craigslist). I never see or hear anybody say anything bad. I looked for reviews on this saddle and I can't find anybody saying anything about them other than "maybe I want this saddle" or "my friend has this saddle and they love it" I thought it was a decent saddle.
But this problem is driving me nuts. 1,200$ and I thought I was getting something I wouldn't have a problem with.

Does anybody think it could be because of the way the skirt is?
this is the only short skirt and slightly rounded saddle I have ever rode in. other saddles I have been in have been regular square skirts and I didn't have a problem with them. But I have nothing to base the idea of it could be the skirt because I've never rode in a saddle with a skirt like this.
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I have had Tucker's for a long time. I have never had to over cinch to keep the saddle from rolling. I won't over cinch. The one thing I don't like now is you have to pay a $125 upgrade for better leather and a leather latigo. I ride in High Plains with round skirts.

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By the pictures, I wouldn't think your horse is mutton withered.
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post #9 of 18 Old 05-20-2013, 06:28 AM
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tuckers are made to fit walking horses, not stock horses. The trail riding circles I hang out with almost exclusively use tuckers and ride walking horses. People like to poo poo that they dont take different saddles but that simply isnt true. You sit different, ride different and the horses backs are different. By accident or design tuckers cater to gaited horses and are very well liked by gaited horse riders.
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The only thing I can say that "Might" help is a contoured saddle pad with the wither cut our or a tacky too type pad with some gripage. I bought a custom saddle last year for my hard to fit spotted saddle mare and I was so mad when I couldnt not get in the saddle no matter how tight I cinched her up because the blessed thing would roll and it would roll all the way under her. Burned me up. The contoured pad helped some and so did the tack too but I didnt want to pad to be my remedy I wanted what I paid for work right. My mare being gaited isnt build like a gaited horse. So, I had to go a different route. I have never actually seen anyone use a tucker on anything but a gaited horse. medium tree tuckers fit our other TWHs like gloves but I cant even get a wide tree tucker to sit down on my SSH.

I would try the saddle pads and hope they help.

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