Turns out my mare(that I bought in Dec) was diagnosed with severe Navicular disease, after being misdiagnosed with a thin sole on her feet and minor white line infection by a different vet and farrier.
The couple times when I had tried the saddle on my mare, when I thought she was okay to ride and was just on the mend, the saddle rolled, just the back half though...the swell, by her whithers, was okay and stayed for the most part in place. The back of the saddle though was pretty far off.
I put my saddle away for a couple months and didn't think about it once I found out she had Navicular. Since finding another horse, and knowing he also needs a medium tree due to his thin build. I have pulled the saddle out again and have been using....trying... to use it.
But it also rolls on him, and comes off... I bought a smaller cinch to try tightening it more, and a new pad to see if it was my pad.
But no go, it still will roll to the side when I try to mount from the ground.
When I have rode him in it, or lunged him, I always check the sweat on his back for dry areas... in both saddle pads, the sweat has been consistent on his back, with no "dry" spots anywhere.
He never seems sore after riding either. He does not like when I try to mount from the ground because of the saddle rolling...can't really blame him for that. But after realizing the saddle rolls, I have got him to just stand beside a stool for me to mount from so I put less pressure on the saddle while mounting(and this works great).
I'm not the smallest person in the world, but I'm by far not the largest rider either... so I'm not sure if this has anything to do with it? Everybody assures me it doesn't...but I'm not sure if they're just being nice or not...
Here's a picture of me on him, when I went to go look at him, so I'm not in my saddle in the picture
Then here he is with my first saddle pad I used on him, also from my mare, a contoured ESP barrel saddle pad(only round pad I could find at my local tack shop, and was told it was okay for trail riding)
And here he is with the thinner pad I tried on him to see if it would help... it's a 1/4 -1/2 inch felt square mustang pad, with an acrylic double folded mayatex pad. So it was only 3/4 or 2/3 of an inch of padding vs the 1 and 1/4 of an inch with my other combo.
What I'm trying to figure out is.....what's up with this saddle?! And why doesn't it fit either of my horses that should be medium tree sized horses....!
Info from online about this saddle:
I would love to have this saddle work, due to I'm in love with how it feels on my butt and I spent a lot (to me) of money on it. And I dropped it on concrete once so it has a scuff on the horn and by the cantle/roll...
Thanks for any help or suggestions! :)
(I will get another saddle if needed....I'm trying to find somebody to come fit him that is more helpful than the person who fit my mare)