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post #11 of 18 Old 05-20-2013, 10:47 AM Thread Starter
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When I was first looking to buy a saddle at the tack store by my house, a nice shop with only circle y/tucker/tex tan type saddles...not cheaper made saddles. The guy told me that the Tuckers would fit qh type horses as well? I haven't heard that they are only for gaited horses, I knew they made some for gaited but I haven't heard that all of them are for gaited horses. What I've seen from online dealers they haven't said they're all for gaited horses either....

But I could be wrong, and if I am that's probably my problem with the saddle.... Luckily I know somebody with gaited horses that was interested in buying my saddle...

@ toosexy4myspotz : I have already tried a contoured whither relief opening pad, I think it made it worse on my gelding...but it could be due to the felt material on the bottom of it. it's an esp classic equine barrel pad.

@ goneriding : I'm not sure what you mean by muttonwhithered... but here's my horses with out the saddle on

my mare I tried the saddle on first:

and I don't have any really good pictures of my gelding from the side...but here's him getting his prepurchase exam:
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post #12 of 18 Old 05-20-2013, 11:28 AM
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I wish saddle fitting was as easy as "my horse needs a medium tree" or "my horse needs a wide tree" but it's not.

I think I went through 10 saddles on my Mustang. If the saddle is rolling it simply doesn't fit well. It has nothing to do with your weight. I weigh a lot more than you and if the saddle fits well rolling is not a big problem when mounting even for a heavy rider. (I still try to use a mounting block just so I don't pull on my horse a lot).

To me, besides possible fit issues for the horse, a rolling saddle is a safety issue for the rider. If the saddle is rolling when you mount, it will roll if the horse spooks. If the horse spins-n-spooks you don't want that saddle to roll or you could end up under the horse. I've had a saddle roll a couple of times and I got rid of both of those saddles. If your saddle is cinched decently and the horse spooks that saddle should grip to the horse's back. I had a major bucking crash on my youngster a while back that started with a spin and spook but the saddle preformed great. I could not fault the saddle even though I came off.

So anyway, for your own safety, I would try to sell this saddle and get one that fits. Your horses are not fat and have good withers. Almost any saddle should fit them without the rolling issue you are having now.
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post #13 of 18 Old 05-20-2013, 05:02 PM
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I agree with the leather latigo.. the dhs saddle would slip when he used a nylon and he also got a different pad (fleece) made by reinsman- one of those weaver smart cinch girths- and no more slippage.. his horse is a big boy and has fqhb saddle but it was a combination of the three items that didnt work so well on his saddle.

I would definitely reccomend tryin a fleece pad.

Id like ta see a picture of the saddle on your horse with out pad and blanket- and from the front (pommel) angle. In my opinion your horse (the chestnut overo) Has a higher wither and should need a semi quarter horse barred saddle.. might be the pads or the blanket thats makin it roll-- ive not had a problem doubled up like that but the first pad on top looks like it would cause slippage with a blanket underneath.. he might also do well with a cut back style pad.

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post #14 of 18 Old 05-20-2013, 08:03 PM
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The saddle is rolling because you are pulling yourself up, instead of springing up with the leg that's on the ground. To strengthen your knees put one foot on a kitchen chair and lower yourself down and up. Don't bend forward but remain upright.
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post #15 of 18 Old 05-21-2013, 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Saddlebag View Post
The saddle is rolling because you are pulling yourself up, instead of springing up with the leg that's on the ground. To strengthen your knees put one foot on a kitchen chair and lower yourself down and up. Don't bend forward but remain upright.
Also, pay attention when you are mounting. Dont grab a hold of the saddle horn, grab a hold of your horses mane insted. When I had my ATMS I had to grab my mares mane or I wasnt getting in the saddle.

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post #16 of 18 Old 05-25-2013, 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe4d View Post
tuckers are made to fit walking horses, not stock horses. The trail riding circles I hang out with almost exclusively use tuckers and ride walking horses. People like to poo poo that they dont take different saddles but that simply isnt true. You sit different, ride different and the horses backs are different. By accident or design tuckers cater to gaited horses and are very well liked by gaited horse riders.

Good point. My gaited mare had a medium but outgrew it. Tucker medium is narrower than other brand mediums. It is very narrow. Mine fit great in the front but flipped up in the back. I found a thinner pad worked better and is fine since it has wool felt over the tree.

Can you Euro-rig that? Like cinch one loop, then another loop around the ring for the back cinch, and back to the front again.

I sometimes used a neoprene tacky cinch but a wide one for a roping saddle. You may even want to try a tacky pad.
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post #17 of 18 Old 05-26-2013, 01:17 AM Thread Starter
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I have been working on my saddle issue.
Oddly enough, I have been told to use a thinner pad and the saddle is too narrow for my horse. But... I did the trick of putting wire over him and then measuring the wire. And I measured the gullet on the saddle(it's 7 inches, which I've heard is average for a medium tree?)... my horse measured between 6 or 6 and 1/2 inches(the wire didn't hold shape as well as I had hoped. I also set my saddle on his back, the pommel(swell?) was a good three finger space from his whither. But the saddle had room on the it wasn't touching him there.

Anyways, I tried a thicker pad combination and had better results. I used my 1 inch thick pad, and my mayatex acrylic blanket that is folded over(so maybe 1/4 of an inch. And I had much better results with this...also using my neoprene cinch(that's probably still a little too large for him but I only have one neoprene cinch..)

here's pictures of him with the saddle on...and the new pad combination...and some sweat on his back afterwards(no pinch marks).

Keep in mind he's underweight right now, and lacking muscle. I'm working on this... he's getting healthy edge 1 scoop AM and PM with 1/3 cup veg oil AM and PM. with a flake of alfalfa at night. Much more than he was use to eating before I got him.... He has already made some progress from when I got him. He's also just a really thin built guy I think... but I'm hoping he will beef up a little. He's only 5 right now as well.






^ I should pull the saddle up a bit next time, the D rings on this saddle are a little odd and angle the cinch forwards more.
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post #18 of 18 Old 05-26-2013, 10:41 AM
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I have a Tucker and because I got so used to cinching up with nylon fittings (which slide REALLY easily) I have not done well getting the leather very tight at all. Generally when I untack after the ride, I'm amazed the saddle wasn't sliding back & forth! No trouble mounting, but I use a fairly thick saddle pad & use mane for mounting - and ground slope because I'm short and old!

It may make no difference, but I have heard several Tucker enthusiasts say the saddles are not as well made now that Circle Y (I think) purchased the Tucker line. Mine is an old "original or true Tucker" as some call them. Dixie is VERY mutton withered as well as ROUND and it fits her pretty well - good clearance over withers, and though there isn't a generous amount of room on the sides of the shoulders, it isn't too tight or pinching like the Wintec I have was though not quite as roomy as the Abetta western I have which is a pretty wide tree. My Tucker is an endurance without the horn. My problem is I really could use some extra $$, and of the 3 saddles I have (and one horse) the Tucker is by far the one that would bring the most money. But I ADORE it so have not yet talked myself in taking it to the consignment place to sell.....
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