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        11-06-2008, 08:52 PM
      #21
    Zab
    Yearling
    She had a pessoa? They're just confusing and not really good at soling problems.
    If she can't controle the horse at all with a nice bit, it's better to use a harsher bit temporarily, than to risk her life.
         
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        11-06-2008, 09:01 PM
      #22
    Showing
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Zab    
    She had a pessoa? They're just confusing and not really good at soling problems.
    If she can't controle the horse at all with a nice bit, it's better to use a harsher bit temporarily, than to risk her life.
    I didn't see anywhere where the OP said the horse was getting dangerous... then I would definitely say that they need to look at the training!!
    I just personally don't agree with going to a stronger bit for problems like "the horse is getting a little rushy." There are training exercises to take care of that.
         
        11-06-2008, 09:05 PM
      #23
    Zab
    Yearling
    I don't agree to stronger bits either, but I can accept it if the goal is to, in a short time, manage to go back to a softer bit and if the rider feels insecure. (insecure, tensed rider = worse horse)
    Maybe I misunderstood something then.
         
        11-06-2008, 09:08 PM
      #24
    Showing
    From the OP:

    "she gets strong and heavy in hand over fences and out in the fields and I'd like to be able to get her back easier"


    I understood this as the mare's getting a little strong, and the OP wants a harsher bit to be able to bring her back faster. I did not see anything about this being dangerous, but rather for a faster response. You can get a faster response through correct training, you don't need to go to a strong bit.
         
        11-06-2008, 09:14 PM
      #25
    Zab
    Yearling
    I'm so very sorry I read it too fast and got something wrong at 2am in the morning. Why don't you go nagging on someone else, someone who at least disagree with you about trining the horse to solve the problem nstead of bitting up? I've already explained that I don't see a harsher bit as a solution, but proper training. Already in my first post I said clearly that she has to find the problem, solve it and then use a nicer bit.
    I don't really see why you felt the need to tell me how wrong I am (and at the same time in some weird way say I was riht, but still wrong) in the other thread either. I'm not going to answer it anyway, I'm off to sleep now.
    Good night.
         
        11-06-2008, 09:25 PM
      #26
    Zab
    Yearling
    Sory if I sound a bit annoyed, I just feel rather picked on at the moment.
         
        11-06-2008, 09:34 PM
      #27
    Showing
    I didn't think I had been rude. Guess I was wrong. Sorry you took it that way, I was trying to explain myself.

    I'll go "nag" someone else now.

    ETA - I wasn't picking on you. I was explaining my position and why I feel the OP should look at their training rather than throwing the horse in a stronger bit.
         
        11-06-2008, 10:21 PM
      #28
    Showing
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Zab    
    I'm so very sorry I read it too fast and got something wrong at 2am in the morning. Why don't you go nagging on someone else, someone who at least disagree with you about trining the horse to solve the problem nstead of bitting up? I've already explained that I don't see a harsher bit as a solution, but proper training. Already in my first post I said clearly that she has to find the problem, solve it and then use a nicer bit.
    I don't really see why you felt the need to tell me how wrong I am (and at the same time in some weird way say I was riht, but still wrong) in the other thread either. I'm not going to answer it anyway, I'm off to sleep now.
    Good night.
    That is the problem with forums. It's difficult to read the feelings behind posts. I don't think JDI was "telling" you, you were wrong but explaining herself and I must say I couldn't agree more.As Zab and JDI posted, nothing can take replacement of proper training and I would fear for those who take shortcuts by investing in stronger more invasive tack. I think it's one of the most common mistakes made by riders. They over bit their mounts instead of figuring out what the horse is trying to tell them and correcting their own riding in order to fix that problem.
    As I have posted a fantastic book that is fantastic about explaining all this is the Myler company book that was released. Excellent read for anyone who wants more knowledge on the use and pros and cons of so many bits that are available. :)
         
        11-06-2008, 10:38 PM
      #29
    Showing
    My2Geldings, that was a really great post.. thank you :) (votes for M2G to be a mod...)
         
        11-07-2008, 05:54 PM
      #30
    Zab
    Yearling
    I'm sorry for loosing my temper, I've jst had a lot of people telling me how wrong I am in pretty much everything yesterday; all from ''you can't ride your horse because he's a standardbred and those can't be ridden without injuring their back'', ''People with standardbreds never take good care of them'' to people having issues with what I say in a lot of things. They don't agree and can't accept that I don't agree with them, both with rollkur, spurs, whips (and how to use them) etc etc etc..
    Most wasn't on this forum but a swedish one and I had a similiar ''argument'' with a person there as the one here, only she was lots worse. -_-
    So, I'm sorry.
         

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