I have the opportunity to buy a 17 inch circle Y cutting saddle from tacktrader.com. The saddle is like new. It belonged to a woman who's husband bought it but started having back problems soon after and quit riding. It is in mint condition. The dark brown color with basketweaving and the matching breastcollar. She is asking $750.00 for it, which everyone has told me is a great deal. My question is, she can't find the plate but I have been in contact with this seller for days and that doesn't really matter much to me as I plan on being buried with this saddle . My question: are most of the circle Y saddle's full QHB? Without the plate, we can't tell and she isn't really sure herself. She said her husband used the saddle on his wide quarter horse so I am sure it will fit paul. I will post a pic of the saddle. Thanks.