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post #1 of 12 Old 07-08-2013, 09:07 AM Thread Starter
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Cordeo

(Sorry I don't speak English very well)

I'm a harness maker and with a friend we "invented" a cordeo in leather. We can put reins (for dressage) or a handle on this cordeo.

My friend try it with his stallion and we make a video :


What do you think ? Do you like it ?
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post #2 of 12 Old 07-08-2013, 02:49 PM
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That's very nice to see people get creative in a positive way when it comes to training your horses! I like cordeo a lot and use it quite frequently, both when riding and with an attached rope from the ground - was inspired to do so by the work of Klaus Ferdinand Hempfling, who has been using a cordeo with a rope in groundwork for years!

I like the cordeo as a nice tool for refinement before switching to working at complete liberty from the ground and riding completely tackless - it sure is a good checkpoint to see, whether you really lead your horse with your body language, and if you really ride just from your seat and legs. That's why it is meant just to lie freely on the horses neck, and to be used just as a light signal, definitely not to be pressed for prolonged periods against horses' neck or to be used for balancing yourself (if used as a training aid, not just a neckstrap for safety).

Would you, please, share, why did you find adding reins useful? I don't really see how can they help in tackless riding, as well as strapping the cordeo to the saddle. The pressure from the cordeo works very different, if compared to how pressure from the reins works on a bit or a bitless bridle.

And your horse is stunning. Loved watching your video, although he seems to have quite a dominant attitude at times. Him being a stud, it is understandable, just be careful, especially, when you ask him to rear. I noticed that you take a step back when doing it, and that can become dangerous quickly, as the horse can learn VERY fast that rearing can be a way to back up the human.

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...he seems to have quite a dominant attitude at times. Him being a stud, it is understandable, just be careful, especially, when you ask him to rear. I noticed that you take a step back when doing it, and that can become dangerous quickly, as the horse can learn VERY fast that rearing can be a way to back up the human.
YES. To the degree that I would not be lunging such an animal without head gear. Total and complete submission would be required for me to feel safe moving on. Jmo. I understand the horse is not yours and the video of your friend. I hope she is typically more cautious.
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The entire video finally worked for me. He seems very well behaved under saddle, though I still don't care for his manners in-hand.

The cordeo looks very nicely made. But I was distracted by the horse's behaviour.
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Thank you very much for my work !

Indeed, it's not me on the video. I quickly answer you from her but I don't want to make a debate for this. Firstly because it's not me ^^ and it would be complicated to find the words in English to speak about that.

Her purpose isn't the work tackless (she already makes it in career). It's to have a horse who works correctly in "basse école" with a cordeo and without having ever use a bit with her horse. She doesn't work by the submission of the horse but by his cooperation.
I haven't her skills in training so I respect her work and can't discuss with you on this subject, sorry.

Here are some explanations about the cordeo in leather and the advantages that it present compared with a cordeo in rope:

- Strapping the cordeo to the saddle while you lunging the horse prevent the cordeo from turning.

- The cordeo is less fine thus more comfortable for the horse.

- You can attach it to the saddle so don't have pressure on the cordeo when you haven't need of it, make freestyle without having to take care of the cordeo, preparing your horse without being afraid that the cordeo falls and that the horse walks above...

- The handle allows in hike to have the cordeo in hand without put pressure on it.

- Reins are useful for dressage. They are attached lower and allow to have an effect of supporting rein which are more precise. You can press only a side of the cordeo and not the whole cordeo.


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I like it! I'd buy one. :)
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Thanks !
Was my explanation understandable ?
And have I the right to give my facebook page for those who want to see more ?
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I like it, so cool!
And the horse is so lovely also!
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Beautiful video and beautiful horse!! Does anyone have any advice on how to transition to this type of riding?
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laurachristine, before transitioning to riding with a cordeo, you should be very sure of your seat and leg cues. If your horse is responsible and sensitive to those, you've got a good start. If you've never tried riding with a cordeo, first try riding with your usual bridle AND with a cordeo. Give the first cues with your seat and legs, reinforce them with cordeo cues, if needed and, if there is no response, reinforce them with your usual reins. Try to work up the sensitivity of your horse up to the point where you don't need to touch the reins at all, the cordeo is hanging freely (don't use it for balance, don't dig it into horses' neck), and the horse is moving mainly from your seat and legs. First practice at walk and make sure you can stop your horse well, with practice you will be able to do everything you do with your everyday tack. One thing, though - do it in a safe, enclosed area only, at least until you are 150% sure of your skills and of your horse.

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