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  • Snaffle bit crooked in mouth
  • My horses bit keeps going upside down

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    04-19-2014, 02:13 PM
crooked horse or crooked bit??

Lol silly question, I bet. But anyway, here's my issue...

I got a french link snaffle (Right name? Snaffle bit with a center link?) for my girl last year, but every time I put it on her, it sits more to one side than the other... I straighten it, but I can't keep hopping down to fix the bit or to make sure it hasn't moved. Is there some way to straighten it so it's not more to one side than the other?

Is there something I am doing wrong? Is it too big? How can I tell? I will get some pics tomorrow to show what I mean.

I can't imagine it feels all to awesome in her mouth being like that.
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    04-19-2014, 02:27 PM
It sounds like it might be fitted to loose, but I thinks pics are going to be the key here.....
    04-19-2014, 04:50 PM
More than likely its a fitting problem. However some horses do have offset mouths. Meaning they don't line up just right. You can see this with thier teeth and how they are set within the mouth itself. (esp with under or over bites) and yes some do have jaws offset to the left or the right (teeth will also show that evidence). "Wrynose" aka "wrymouth" aka "wrymuzzle" is another problem but one can definitely see that problem with out much probing. The entire muzzle is offset to one side or the other. Its not that common though.

Some horses like to carry a bit to one side or the other so they situate it to where they like it in the mouth. Some do it as a way to evade commands, some do it due to pain, some do it because they don't know any better, (like a youngster being bittted for the first time and etc)some do it because that's just the way they like to have it set in the mouth. So there are a variety of reasons.

I too would like to see pics when you get them.
    04-19-2014, 08:14 PM
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Probably a crooked rider over a crooked horse... along w/ a fit problem, although she could have a wave mouth or one less tooth then the other... but I have a feeling you use a little more rein pressure on one side than the other. She may even pull a little more on that side.
    04-19-2014, 10:51 PM
Cool. Thanks for the replies. Will try to remember to get pics and if it's loose I'll get a diff one :)
    04-20-2014, 01:11 PM
Rio did this in the bit I tried last week. He normally wears a 5.75" loose ring snaffle. I put him in a 5.5" billy allen curb. He rode wonderfully but I noticed when bridling him that he was carrying it uneven. I would straighten it and it would go right back. He didn't do that with his snaffle. Just kinda funny!
    04-20-2014, 07:41 PM
Okay. Took some pics!

The bridle looks even to me, but the bit just looks wrong lol. Almost as if it's pulling higher on one side than the other and I am not sure why it would be doing this unless she's maybe holding it that way? I just don't know.

Help would be great

P.S. I am going to be removing the browband and throatlatch but wanted to know if maybe they are the cause of this wonky fit.
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    04-21-2014, 03:12 AM
The ridle looks even and removing the browband or the throatlatch isnt going to make any difference. I would lower the browband a little. The throatlatch just keeps the bridle from being pulled over the head and serves no purpose in bit placement. The bridle cheeks seem to be even and the buckels on each side seem to be even also and I don't see a problem there. The bit looks like it might be a tad to large though (its folding forward a good deal also) perhaps by about 1/4 inche to long. This can lead to listing to one side to compensate for the extra length. Is the bit placed in the mouth correctly? (not upside down?) Can you show a picture of just the bit hanging freely from the bridle. (outside of the mouth of course). And for good measure a picture of your horse's teeth from the front and then one from the side? I just want to cover all bases before I make my final assesment. But I am saying its the bit size on this one. She has a QH head and though she has wide cheek bones they arent set low (which is a helpful thing when fitting for a curb bit) and I am betting that she has a smaller muzzle/mouth like that typical of the QH style. She may take a 4 and 3/4 inch bit than the average of 5 inches. This is not an unusual size for a QH esp those of closer to foundation types.

To check the width of the mouth is pretty easily done and you don't need to buy any gizmo or gadget to do this with. I improvized. Find a peice of string about baling twine size and tie one end to the center of a pencil (not sharpened). Gently draw the twine through the mouth using the pencil to lightly brace against the cheek of the opposite side. Grasp the twine beside the cheek/lip on the non pencil side with your fingers and tie a knot in the twine at that spot or mark it with a marker. Remove the twine from the mouth then measure the distance between the pencil and the knot or mark and this will give you an idea of how wide the mouth is.
    04-21-2014, 03:29 PM
Actually she is a thoroughbred :) not sure if that changes your views. I will try to get a shot of her mouth and the bit on the bridle :)
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    04-24-2014, 01:36 PM
Breed doesn't matter!

I to would be interested to see the bit free hanging, and I also agree it looks a tad large.

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