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    06-04-2012, 03:25 PM
Green Broke
For my mustang, who can get a little strong some times. But otherwise LOVES her argentine Snaffle. Its broken in 2 places which makes it easier on her, plus it has honey flavored copper rollers so its nearly irrisistable.
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    06-04-2012, 03:42 PM
Originally Posted by Speed Racer    
A harsh bit is never the answer to a strong, forward horse.

If the mare likes the pelham and goes well in it, why fix what's not broken?

I use a D-ring french link snaffle on my spazzy Arabian and a jointed, full cheek low port curb on my TB. My TB goes much better in the low port curb than anything else. He fusses with regular snaffle bits.

It's usually a training issue that needs to be addressed if a horse is running through a particular bit.

I am curious to see what that bit looks like.
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    06-04-2012, 11:01 PM
FYI lilkitty90, that "argentine snaffle" is not a snaffle at all, it's a curb bit.

Snaffle means the bit works on direct pressure, curb means leverage. Because that bit pictured has shanks, it is a curb bit. In addition, it's rather harsh because it combines nutcracker action with poll pressure. In the right hands any bit can be mild, but it's really a matter of what the horse likes, and the education of the rider's hands. Please note - I pass no judgement on your horse, hands, or riding, as of course i've not seen you ride, and you say your horse loves the bit so hey, if it works and the horse is happy, then i've got nothing to add :)

To the OP - my TB that I hunt is incredibly strong, standing near 16.2 and weighing in around 1400 pounds. He's fit and feisty, and while finished and incredibly responsive, there are times when fully body effort is needed to slow him down in the hunt field. He's very sensitive in the mouth, and a single jointed snaffle is out as he hates them, and more than one joint he finds distracting. I found great success with the myler 3 ring (limited poll pressure) with first the level 2 mouth, then the level 3 (for finished horses). He loves the bit, the nose pressure cues him when I need to get his attention without hauling on his face or taking every bit of my seat and back and legs and body weight, and he's incredibly happy in it. For anyone doing aggressive equestrian sports, I can't recommend these bits enough!!! The mullen pelham was just all leverage (since obv the no port smooth mouth was as mild as you can get) and frustrating for him and me. Once I made the change to this bit, we're BOTH happier!

Please note - this bit is NOT a shortcut for training, useful for correcting issues, or a quick fix. It's designed for a horse that already is light on the aids and fore, but is intended for a horse that is physically fit and strong.
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    06-05-2012, 12:09 AM
Green Broke
CJ82sky I know its obviously not a snaffle. It could be used as one but it clearly isn't. My horse does perfect in the argentine snaffle. That's why I posted a photo of her bit though so that the misnomer name wouldn't be confused with a regular snaffle. I do take pride in my use of mild hands :) that's one of the reasons I love curb bits myself, but I wouldn't put them in harsh hands, that's for sure.
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    06-05-2012, 12:14 AM
Glad to hear lilkitty90 (and what I figured from your desc of how your horse goes in that bit!)

The definition of snaffle v. Curb was also for the general group bc it's a personal pet peeve lol ;)
    06-05-2012, 12:17 AM
Green Broke
I honestly wish they would come up with a better name for the argentine snaffle! It definitely gets confusing and I hope I didn't confuse anyone without mentioning that it was a curb haha. Maybe we need to think of a new name ourselves and let it spread like wildfire lol
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    06-05-2012, 01:34 AM
I ride westren and when my QH acted up and started to be a butt to us I switched his bit to a harsher one for 2 weeks and then back to his other bit which is softer and he was way better and he has been better, for the past few years but I keep the bit just in case!
    06-05-2012, 05:42 PM
Well I am too lazy to read all of this....

If she is pulling to the reins, I would use a sharper snaffle, and make her do a circle once she gets too pully, make "8"figures till she doesnt pull.....
If she is very "running" in the trails, quite good bit is this one

It is made also with D-rings. It is a little bit sharper, but nothing too harsh. The horse cannot bite into the snaffle-due to the rolls made of brass which can roll.... But the taste of the rolls make the horse mouth waterish...

If she is OK and then suddenly she is like an idiot, I will use a pelhem woth double reins. Ride mainly on the contact of the snaffle reins, and she she becomes crazy, use the curb reins.
    06-05-2012, 05:49 PM
Originally Posted by tinyliny    
I am curious to see what that bit looks like.
Here you are, Tiny. JJ really likes this bit, for some reason. I tried a rubber wrapped jointed D-ring and he wanted no parts of it, but this bit he thinks is the greatest thing evah!

FES Full Cheek Low Port Correction in Full Cheeks at Schneider Saddlery

It has copper striping on the inside of the bit to encourage salivation.
    06-06-2012, 02:00 AM
That explains it, the correction mouthpiece instead of a double joint. Gotcha....That's not a curb bit nor a low port either though....

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