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        10-10-2013, 08:19 AM
      #11
    Green Broke
    I use a breastplate but I ride treeless so the saddle can slide a lot more easily on hills. I could probably go without it, but it doesn't hurt anything to keep it there.

    I have used a running martingale in the past on my horse for short periods of time. When I was a teen I did have a tie down on the horse I rode (western) but he would hit you with his head if you had any contact with his mouth. That was a rider safety issue. I tried changing bits on him but he always did it, even with a snaffle.
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        10-10-2013, 08:28 AM
      #12
    Super Moderator
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by horselovinguy    

    A "running martingale" is used by running your reins through rings which are not supposed to come into active use unless the horse raises the head past a certain point, then downward force is applied on those reins.
    I don't like running martingales as it breaks the bit, rein, hand line of communication...how it does not come into some form of play when those rings and that piece of equipment hangs continually on your reins is beyond me, no thanks.


    just my opinion...
    I'm not sure why the running martingale not coming into play should be beyond you? It is pretty simple in that the contact is more than enough to hold up the weight (which is slight) of the martingale attachment and so the ring runs along the reins but makes no impact on the line of the reins, if you ride without a contact then there is no impact on anything for them to have any effect. If the martingale is set too low, which is incorrect, only then will it affect the bit / rein / hand line. A running martingale is a useful safety measure on an unpredictable horse who may throw it's head up suddenly.
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        10-10-2013, 08:39 AM
      #13
    Foal
    I will get the best fitting saddle possible, and I most likely will not be riding on steep terrains at all
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        10-10-2013, 09:22 AM
      #14
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    A correctly adjusted running martingale is what I call a safety net - it should only come into play when its needed - the rest of the time it can sit there doing nothing so isn't hurting anything or interfering with anything
    I find them really useful when the flies are really bad if I have a horse that gets hysterical about them and starts flinging its head in my face.
         
        10-10-2013, 10:35 AM
      #15
    Started
    I ride lots of steep terrain, on a round horse with no withers. I use a breast collar always, unless I'm working in the arena or just on a light ride. More than once I have climbed a steep grade and found that my saddle has slipped back and the breast collar is tight.
         
        10-10-2013, 12:17 PM
      #16
    Started
    Breast collar/breastplate for trail riding. Otherwise, the less amount of junk hanging off the horse, the better...at least for me.
         
        10-10-2013, 12:31 PM
      #17
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Clava    
    I'm not sure why the running martingale not coming into play should be beyond you? It is pretty simple in that the contact is more than enough to hold up the weight (which is slight) of the martingale attachment and so the ring runs along the reins but makes no impact on the line of the reins, if you ride without a contact then there is no impact on anything for them to have any effect. If the martingale is set too low, which is incorrect, only then will it affect the bit / rein / hand line. A running martingale is a useful safety measure on an unpredictable horse who may throw it's head up suddenly.

    Actually, it isn't! The words were a "play on & phrasing of words"....

    But if you truly ride with very soft hands and soft contact...those rings and the weight of the leather straps do come into play.
    There is a downward force...on a sensitive mouthed animal it makes a difference.
    Let go of your horses face and drop your contact by half... big difference in feel and communication on a truly soft mouthed horse.

    If you think, "A running martingale is a useful safety measure on an unpredictable horse who may throw it's head up suddenly."
    Safety measure, sure it is ...so was the WHACK to the bars of the mouth, tongue and teeth. Some horse just flipped over from that WHACK in the mouth...
    I'll let the standing martingale be my "safety measure" and not sacrifice my horses mouth...let the noseband of my bridle exert the force to the bridge of the nose keeping the head away from my face.

    Just a different philosophy and way your were taught to ride and use equipment.
    To each their own.
    Have a super day!!
         
        10-10-2013, 12:36 PM
      #18
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by horselovinguy    
    Actually, it isn't! The words were a "play on & phrasing of words"....

    But if you truly ride with very soft hands and soft contact...those rings and the weight of the leather straps do come into play.
    There is a downward force...on a sensitive mouthed animal it makes a difference.
    Let go of your horses face and drop your contact by half... big difference in feel and communication on a truly soft mouthed horse.

    If you think, "A running martingale is a useful safety measure on an unpredictable horse who may throw it's head up suddenly."
    Safety measure, sure it is ...so was the WHACK to the bars of the mouth, tongue and teeth. Some horse just flipped over from that WHACK in the mouth...
    I'll let the standing martingale be my "safety measure" and not sacrifice my horses mouth...let the noseband of my bridle exert the force to the bridge of the nose keeping the head away from my face.

    Just a different philosophy and way your were taught to ride and use equipment.
    To each their own.
    Have a super day!!
    interesting I would never use a standing martingale as they are horrible restrictive things that prevent natural movement. Even if a horse throws it's head up with a running martingale there is only a pull on the mouth if you choose to close your fingers against the pull, you can let the horse throw it's head up if you want to, which is not possible with a standing martingale.
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        10-10-2013, 12:47 PM
      #19
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    Here is a running martingale and you can see it is making no difference to the bit , rein and hand line. This is my TB mare (who has a soft mouth) but with my friend riding her.
         
        10-10-2013, 01:02 PM
      #20
    Foal
    If you are climbing a lot of hills then yes but for flat every day riding they not needed. I barrel race and like to use one for that to help keep my saddle in place.
         

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