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I never used a fulmar, but I have used a full cheek, and always used the keepers. I hated that it always got caught on stuff without them. In all honesty I did't notice a wit of difference how the horse carried the bit with or without the keepers.
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The keepers TELL the horse how it will carry the bit. Without the keepers he will hold it where most comfortable.
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I could agree with that, this horse is one of those ones that don't care what you put in his mouth, he is the same. But I found it was annoying having those cheek piece snagging on everything, reason I stopped using it. Well, real reason was to buy another bit, had to try that french link, lol.
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Keepers are not essential, but they do change the action of the bit.

Without the keepers the checks mainly just give you extra turning power, with them the bit is more fixed in the mouth.

A full-cheek snaffle is a fulmer by a different name.
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^ Not true. A Fulmer has loose rings and a full cheek does not.



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But the loose ring of the fulmer doensn't translate into the same action as a standard loose ring snaffle. I will have to admit, I've never quite understood the point of a fulmer. The addition of the full cheeks rob it of the movement that's the hallmark of a true loose ring snaffle. You do get the lateral reinforcement of direct rein aids, but you get that with a plain full cheek snaffle.

In any case, I would ride any full cheeck snaffle with keepers to make the most of that indirect lateral reinforcement, otherwise you might as well ride with a D ring or eggbutt.

PS - If anyone can explain to me the advantage of a fulmer over a plain full cheek or a plain loose ring, I'd appreciate it.
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PS - If anyone can explain to me the advantage of a fulmer over a plain full cheek or a plain loose ring, I'd appreciate it.
I've never used one--you simply cannot find them around here--but I think you just answered your own question, based on the photos I've seen. You get the best of both worlds: the improved "feel" of a loose ring, with the lateral "push" of the full cheek arms and the elimination of a potential for pinching.
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I've never used one--you simply cannot find them around here--but I think you just answered your own question, based on the photos I've seen. You get the best of both worlds: the improved "feel" of a loose ring, with the lateral "push" of the full cheek arms and the elimination of a potential for pinching.
That's pretty much why I got mine (from a member here, actually!).
I hate the "dead" feel of D-rings/full cheeks but Lacey (I assume due to her mouth issues) seems to do better when part of the bit's action is outside her mouth (the whole lateral action thing). So this bit was a compromise in that I got the loose ring I like and Lacey got the lateral action she likes.

So far (I jury-rigged some bit keepers out of rope) I've ridden in it twice and I really like it. Lacey also seems to like it. Perhaps not as much as she likes her ported curbs but she doesn't dislike it. She going much better in it than she's ever gone in any other kind of snaffle I've tried on her so I guess it's a win!

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