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    01-23-2012, 10:18 PM
Nope, the feel of a fulmer is entirely different than the feel of a true loose ring -

Vibration is translated directly from the ring to the mouthpiece in a true loose ring and you can also move the bit in the horse's mouth a great deal.

A full cheek with a small ring like a fulmer is traditionally adjusted a little higher in the mouth - not only do you lose the direct translation of movement from the ring to the mouthpiece, you also lose the ability to move the bit in the horse's mouth in the same way you do a loose ring.

So I fail to see the advantage, though maybe there's something I'd not getting - if I want the vibration/movement, I'd ride in a true loose ring, if I want the indirect lateral pressure, I'd ride in a full cheek. The fulmer seems to give a bad hybrid worst of both worlds.

(Wallaby, if the bit works for you, go for it. I'm here for the bitting theory conversation.)
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    01-23-2012, 10:35 PM
Well, as I said, I haven't handled the bit, so I'm a little behind in that regard. I would love to get my hands on one.

Still, the movement of the rings will still manage to translate (through vibrations) to the mouthpiece. So you're getting into Western versus English bitting philsophy again, but there goes that "presignal" concept again. Much like the loose rings on the bottom of some curb bits:

In the above case, I can tell you there's a definite difference in feel. I would -assume- that this would be a similar case.
    01-23-2012, 10:40 PM
Yes, but that's nothing at all like the feel of a true loose ring snaffle.

Admititedly, my experience riding true loose rings is as the standard schooling bit for dressage horses where you're riding with a different kind of contact.

And I have no experience riding anything like the bit you just pictured, so perhaps we need a Western to English translator.

But I still don't get the point of a fulmer, or if there is a point, it's that it's a bad compromise on two otherwise very useful and funtional bits.

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