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    03-13-2011, 07:23 PM
  #21
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by bsms    
It makes sense to me. The goal of a saddle maker isn't to get the softest leather possible, but to balance flexible with durable and affordable. If they choose leather that is so soft that the seams on all-cotton jeans wears it away, then I think they have made a bad choice. Someone who spends $2000 on a saddle ought to expect it to hold up better than that.
Not necessarily true. There are quite a few people out there who are willing to spend much much more on something with super soft leather knowing they'll have to replace that item more frequently. CWD, Devoucoux, Antares etc are high end saddlers whose calfskin saddles sell for more then $4400 new. And they are QUITE popular....

And it's not just saddles either. I spoke with a rep from DerDau (custom riding boots). Their custom Italian leather field boots are around $1100, and should last at least a decade. Their calfskin boots are $1800 and I was told last 3-4 years. Their calfskin boots are some of their most popular sellers.
     
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    03-13-2011, 09:18 PM
  #22
Trained
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Originally Posted by upnover    
...CWD, Devoucoux, Antares etc are high end saddlers whose calfskin saddles sell for more then $4400 new. And they are QUITE popular....
Hmm...that is 3 times what I paid for a horse trailer. I must live in a different world. In fact, my trailer, most expensive horse and most expensive saddle come in with enough money left over to buy 20 pairs of Levi 501s at the local military exchange.

Maybe that is why I'd be pissed if cotton could wear the saddle out...

And my Red Wing cowboy boots have lasted since 1990, including daily wear in uniform thru 2008. But they were $100, so I expected the best! Gettin' a might thin in the soles, tho.
     
    03-13-2011, 11:29 PM
  #23
Green Broke
Keep in mind, we're not talking about wearing a saddle out, we're talking about marking a saddle up. English saddles were not designed to be ridden in jeans, hence the funny looking pants.

And when you're competing on $500,000 Warmbloods, then yeah, you're not afraid to spend money on something top quality tailor made to your horse to improve feel and flexibility when the stakes are so high.

I couldn't even IMAGINE someone trying to win Grand Prix Dressage riding in my Collegiate! My old Dressage coach has some of the softest, moldable, comfiest saddles you've ever settled your butt into. I would never dream of wearing jeans in them and yet they're old as the hills and extremely durable IF they're treated PROPERLY and not like a saddle meant for a cattle drive.
     
    03-14-2011, 07:38 PM
  #24
Foal
No way. Haha, I ride in jeans all the time. I have a auburn saddle, and not a mark from jeans or a stain has been on it. The only thing that you'd want to keep away from the saddle, is spurs.
     
    03-16-2011, 11:53 AM
  #25
Foal
If this makes me sound like a snob, then so be it....

I spent decent money on my saddles. I ride english, and take it seriously. Being that I take my riding seriously, and have invested my own hard earned money in my tack, I never ride in jeans. It is breeches or not riding

If you have the money to spend on decent saddles, you can't tell me that you CANNOT afford 2 pairs of breeches. Heck, you can walk into any Greenhawk in Canada next week from Thursday to Sunday and get a pair of pull on knee patch breeches for $25. It's the anniversary sale and breeches will be 50% off. On an average day you can come in and get the same pair for $39.95.

I hate the excuse 'breeches are soooooo expensive!'. They're not. I've NEVER paid more than $50 for a pair, including any of my fullseats, and my newest pair is now over a year old and still looks new after constant wear. If all else fails, go to consignment shops.
     
    03-16-2011, 12:24 PM
  #26
Trained
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Originally Posted by reachthestars    
If this makes me sound like a snob, then so be it....

I spent decent money on my saddles. I ride english, and take it seriously. Being that I take my riding seriously, and have invested my own hard earned money in my tack, I never ride in jeans. It is breeches or not riding...
Everyone spends 'decent money' on their saddles. I take my riding seriously, but I've never worn breeches and probably never will. My jeans seem to work fine, and my saddles haven't been harmed. Nor have my horses. Ride as you wish, but please do not suggest that someone who isn't wearing breeches doesn't care about their riding.
     
    03-16-2011, 12:38 PM
  #27
Green Broke
In my world, as I'm sure it is the same for many, wearing breeches is not always an option. Well, it is, but not always a sensible one. I have a barn to run, lessons to teach, stalls to clean, fence to repair, kids to run around, a household to care for. I cannot do all of those things in breeches without ruining them, so I wear my jeans. I have a small window of riding time, and I will not waste it be going to the house and digging out my breeches, only to have to change them AGAIN when I am done. So at times it is ride in jeans or don't ride. Not riding is not as option either when I have 5 horses to maintain, including lesson horses that need to be worked so as not to get sour.

I'm sorry, but to say that I don't take my riding seriously because I want equipment that holds up, and because I may not always be able to ride in the perfect English outfit, is just ridiculous, not to mention insulting...
     
    03-16-2011, 12:46 PM
  #28
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by BarrelChick4646    
I always ride in jeans and I have recently noticed that since I got my new saddle for Christmas, that the saddle is more worn down now from riding in jeans, but i'm pretty sure it is because almost all of my jeans, have studs on the butt pocket so I don't think it would cause to much harm.
Concidering it is now only march I do worry about your saddle. If it is already marked then you have to be doing quite some damage to the leather.

I have an 8 yearold Farringtons show saddle, it is english showing saddle, the leather is butter soft and it has had 8 years of every day use (at least 1 hr sometimes 2 to 3 hrs and on the odd occasion 5-6 hours) there isnt a mark on my saddle

I have a 20 yearold Jeffries show saddle and apart from a mark where the stirrup leathers have gone there isnt any signs of wear at all.

Both are Top quality English saddles and both will last a life time if looked after well and that includes not riding in jeans!

Bsms, you may want something that will be sturdy and thick and last when you wear jeans, may I suggest then that you go for a western saddle as that is what they are designed to do.
I on the other hand ride in competition and I think nothing of shelling out 1000+ for a made to measure saddle that gives me the feel and look I need and untill you've ridden at this level you wont understand what is ment by the feel through the saddle. I'm also willing to have a master saddler up every 3 months to ensure the saddle continues to fit like a glove and that nothing is going to comprimise the horses preformance. When a competition can be won or lost by even the slightest amount of tension from a horse saddles and being able to feel what is going on is very very important.
I would not however take any of my show saddles for a gallop on the beach, I have a cheapy synthetic saddle for that as salt water rots stitching!


You wouldnt expect a pair of dress shoes to last if you go hiking in them but you wouldnt wear a pair of hiking boots to a fancy ball.
Hiking boots are robust and designed to take the wear and tair that comes along with climbing mountains wadeing through streams and being covered in mud, however I dare you to try and do a waltz or a foxtrot in them. Dress shoes can be equally high quality but they are finer and designed for a whole different purpose, they have the flexability and feel so that you could dance in and they are suitable for the situation, I wouldnt like to go walking up a mountain in them in them though.

Saddles are exactly the same, they are designed for different purposes, with different strengths and different weaknesses.
     
    03-16-2011, 01:19 PM
  #29
Weanling
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Originally Posted by reachthestars    
I hate the excuse 'breeches are soooooo expensive!'. They're not. I've NEVER paid more than $50 for a pair, including any of my fullseats, and my newest pair is now over a year old and still looks new after constant wear. If all else fails, go to consignment shops.
Realize that for some people, even $20 can be a big purchase. Especially if you spent every last penny on a decent saddle

Regardless, my point was not that they're TOO expensive, just that they seem to be quite a large mark up. Personally, I don't enjoy buying something that I know someone could make for $10 or less...
     
    03-16-2011, 01:28 PM
  #30
Trained
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Originally Posted by faye    
...Bsms, you may want something that will be sturdy and thick and last when you wear jeans, may I suggest then that you go for a western saddle as that is what they are designed to do.

I on the other hand ride in competition and I think nothing of shelling out 1000+ for a made to measure saddle that gives me the feel and look I need and untill you've ridden at this level you wont understand what is ment by the feel through the saddle. I'm also willing to have a master saddler up every 3 months to ensure the saddle continues to fit like a glove and that nothing is going to comprimise the horses preformance. When a competition can be won or lost by even the slightest amount of tension from a horse saddles and being able to feel what is going on is very very important...
This may come as a shock, but a person can ride English without competing or desiring to compete, and yet still be serious about being a good rider. And no, I wouldn't consider paying a master saddler to come out every 3 months to refit my saddle, but my horses don't seem to mind.

You can compete if you wish and pay money as you wish, but a person can be serious about riding without trying to fart morse code thru their saddle. There is more to life than competitions, and more to riding as well.
     

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