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post #1 of 10 Old 03-05-2012, 10:25 AM Thread Starter
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Double bridle questions

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I'm riding at a level where to pass my exams I need to ride dressage in a Weymouth bridle, my problem is that I'm trying to find the bits necessary. I allready ride the horse I'll be training with a French jointed snaffle, will this do as the primary bit? Also does the weymouth have to be slightly longer than the primary? My horse rides in a 4 1/2 inch and has done high dressage, so he's used to a double bridle ( for those of you that are going to question whether I know how to use a double bridle, I don't, I'm attending a dressage stage soon, but I need to buy the bridle beforehand so I can learn to use it there)
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You do need to buy a bridoon, you can't just use your normal snaffle. The bridoon is much thinner to accommodate the weymouth.
The weymouth just needs to fit, same with the bridoon. The bridoon sits a bit higher in the mouth. My horse prefers a very low weymouth, you have to play with it to find the placement he likes. If a normal 4.5" is a bit snug, it is worth it to shop around for a 4.75" bridoon and weymouth.
It might also be good to ask the old owners what they used with him in the double.
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As Anebel said, the bridoon is usually thinner. And, it will have a much smaller ring. A snaffle ring will be far too big. Too bad your horse needs a small weymouth. I have several I could let go, but they will be too big. Probably too thick, as well, as they are for pretty big horses.

You don't need to get a new double bridle, if you are just riding for the test. You can buy an "inside head" or bridoon hanger, that will allow you to convert your existing bridle to a double bridle. It is far cheaper than buying a whole bridle.

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thanks for all your advice!
After doing my test my hope is to compete at "amateur" level (here in france you need to pass the galop 7 before being able to compete above "club"), I also asked the horse's owner and she said that he really doesn't like bradoon hangers unfortunately, as he's an arabian they don't tend fit him well, so a full double bridle is probably my best option. I have found some at about 45 euros though that will fit him (once again, that triangular arabian head of his is nothing but trouble!).
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...isn't a double bridle just a regular bridle, with a bridoon hanger? I'd save my money and just buy the hanger.
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Buy a complete bridle instead of just a part? That's daft. Maybe they mean you need a narrower width of leather than the existing bridle, which would be fair enough.
If you buy parts, don't forget to buckle the hanger (they call it a sliphead over here) on the offside. And you'll need an extra (thinner usually) pair of reins for the Weymouth.

Beware, though - Arabs have a short jaw and sometimes don't go well in doubles. Too much of a mouthful. If you can it might be worth finding out what mouthpieces he wore when he did 'high' dressage.

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A double bridle HAS a bridoon hanger.....it is just made of the same matching leather. If the horse is an arab, it may have a shallow palate and might need thinner weymouth and bridoon. Just be careful as they will be a bit tougher on the mouth.
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I know of more than one person who rides their upper level horses in a regular snaffle and a curb and they actually find their horses go better in the regular snaffle/curb combo. I likely will be doing that as well when I start my horse in a double but that being said, these are large warmbloods. I personally have nothing against riding a horse in a double with a regular snaffle, your horse just needs to have enough space in his/her mouth.

When I was riding my pony (14.2 hands), whose head is built much like an arabian, upper levels he went in a low port, short shank curb and a regular bridoon quite well. Like Uncleathur mentioned though about the double being too much of a mouthful: even the smallest ported bit with the shortest shanks were nearly too much of a mouthful for him.

You might need to try a few different curbs before you find the right one. Each one fits differently and each horse has different preferences. I'd suggest looking for as low of a port as you can and short shanks simply because of the limited space smaller horses have in their mouths. If your horse goes well in a french link snaffle there's no need to go with high ported bit with long shanks since it sounds like you won't need the leverage.

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Tigo, a regular snaffle has rings that are too large and it could interfere with the bridle. You can find thick mouthed bridoons that will have the same effect as a snaffle but with smaller, more compact rings.
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I've never heard of issues from anyone who uses regular snaffles (my coach or otherwise, hence why I wouldn't be opposed to using a regular snaffle), perhaps they've been lucky being issue free with that? I certainly do see where it could cause some issues with possibly getting caught and such. I've personally never seen a thicker bridoon but if there are ones out there that are the same thickness as a regular snaffle it does make sense to use that; Smaller rings are nicer to look at too!
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