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Double twisted wire bit...

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I was at the tack store yesterday and I saw a bit with a mouth peice similar to this. I can tell it has to be extremly harsh, but what else can anyone tell me about this bit? I'm just curious because I've never seen it before. Thanks!

 
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#78 ·
If anyone is interested I have found a great deal of help and information on bits in a couple of books.
2 by Ed Connell that were written many years ago.
Hackamore Reinsman and Reinsmen of the West-Bridles and Bits.
The best thing you can do for your horse is to educate yourself about what you are sticking in his mouth and the proper use of it.
The Myler's also have a very simple, short read book called A Whole Bit Better. Even if you don't like the bits, its has some good basic information.
All that said, the twisted wire bit has a place. It should be used only by those who know how and why to use it. Those who use it because someone told them to or because they think they will have more power over their horse, need to take a step back and reevaluate there own training and knowledge base.
 
#79 ·
JustDressageIt - Don't worry, I wouldn't even think of it. This is purely an experiment to see if it helps at all, being ridden on a loose contact in an arena. I have no desire to tear her mouth apart, I just want to her to learn a consequence to yanking. I have seriously tried everything - even my Dressage coach was at a loss. If it's blatantly not working in the first half hour, I'll trash the bit, they're cheap as dirt anyway!
 
#81 ·
i was just using the term used around here kevin. not really sure what it's known as to everyone. but it's when they get on and beat and knock around expecting the horse to already know what they want. sorry if i offended you in anyway.
 
#86 ·
Kitty, each time the term has been used in that way, it has been explained that it is an insult to those people who work on ranches or even aspire to it. We have so many members who fit the term "cowboy" in some way that it is very offensive to them (and to me). Just so that you know for the next time.

Call them a "yahoo" or even "moron" next time (LOL).
 
#83 ·
Im going to be honest-I use these. The first bit only on rare occasions. second one every time i ride western, and the spurs-mostly every time i ride, but i KNOW HOW TO USE THEM! you guys are forgetting the fact that even though the bit/spurs are harsh, its the rider who makes it harsh, and all in all, all bits are harsh if theres and idiot rider on them. I i disagree with the idea of its a lazy persons way ofgetting out of it, because its not. I dont see where you can make these judgements if you have never actually ridden a horse in one of these things.
 
#88 ·
You are right, I will never ride a horse in a snaffle like that. In my discipline, we ride with contact. THAT makes the difference. No rider could make that bit anything but nasty if ridden on any contact.
The spurs I have no problem with. They are kinder than prince of wales english spurs, IMO.

FINALLY! Here we have 2 people that ride in VERY different disciplines, yet they UNDERSTAND each others methods and the uses. No attacks, no put-downs. Not even an agree to disagree, just an explanation as to why a bit won't work for one, while it works for another.
 
#84 ·
You are right, I will never ride a horse in a snaffle like that. In my discipline, we ride with contact. THAT makes the difference. No rider could make that bit anything but nasty if ridden on any contact.

The spurs I have no problem with. They are kinder than prince of wales english spurs, IMO.
 
#89 ·
You are right, I will never ride a horse in a snaffle like that. In my discipline, we ride with contact. THAT makes the difference. No rider could make that bit anything but nasty if ridden on any contact.

The spurs I have no problem with. They are kinder than prince of wales english spurs, IMO.
Haha that's what I've been saying all along....
Personally I will never use a twisted mouthpiece ever again; I know what even the lightest contact can do firsthand, unfortunately (the trainer I was with taught me what not to do as well as what to do.)
The problem with twisted bits is that as soon as you pick up any real contact, you are roughing up the horse's lips.
If you're not riding in contact, then use whatever you'd like - you're not going to be using the bit much anyways. HOWEVER - there are some bits that will inflict pain just by the contact of the headstall holding the bit up - such as a woodscrew bit or a mule bit.
 
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