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    01-29-2010, 12:45 AM
  #21
Started
I definitely agree with the above. When I went to try out my Thoroughbred, she was being ridden, and jumped in a twisted wire full cheek, and a standing martingale that was so tight she could barely move her head at all. When I was riding her, I had literal loops in the reins because I did not want to touch her mouth at all with the bit. I never actually had to ask why they rode her in what they rode her in, because the girl explained it all. They decided that the then 7 year old relatively green Thoroughbred needed a harsher bit cause she didn't listen, and they actually stopped riding her shortly after they got her. The trainer was the one that rode her for the rest of the time until I got her. I even jumped her over 3' fences with very loose reins, and she did excellent. Very nice and calm and quiet. As soon as I got her home, I switched her to a french link loose ring, and got rid of the martingale completely, and she was awesome. A harsher bit does not solve the problem, as the problem especially in a horse that young, is often rider error, and inexperience on the horse's part.
     
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    01-29-2010, 08:28 AM
  #22
Green Broke
I completely agree with all of you! Ahahaha and I think it was because the girl that had him before me, well... when we went to go see him (Duckie) she was lunging him (he needs to be lunged for a few minute before riding because he gets a stick in hid butt if you don't lol) but all the girl did was walk Duckie and then some other girl got on him and trotted and loped him. I don't think she was comfortable (or not that good of a rider) to do that much with him. Duckie was a doll and still is, he moves great and you don't need to pull on his mouth that much (only for a hard stop or tight turn) and both me and my sister rode him and he was perfect (why we bought him ;D) and I didn't notice what bit he had because he was already tacked up.

I also don't have any information to contact the girl
     
    01-29-2010, 09:23 AM
  #23
Trained
Just try Duckie in a different softer bit, and see what happens.
     
    01-29-2010, 09:37 AM
  #24
Showing
It wouldn't hurt to gear down in bits as MIEventer suggested.

Just for future reference, I never buy a horse that is tacked up before I get there. I want the horse brought in from the pasture or in his stall. I always get there 1/2 an hour sooner then expected to be sure he wasn't worked. You can hide a lot of faults before a prospective buyer gets there is you know when he is expected.

I also want to see the horse untacked so I can see his reaction and any sweat marks as well as the tack used.
     
    01-29-2010, 06:56 PM
  #25
Green Broke
Great advice both of you! Thanks! I'll try a softer bit on him the next time I ride with him. I also have another question... What about a martingale for my other horse Abby? I don't want to put useless gear on her but she tends to throw her head and when she does that she crow hops! And of course for no reason!
     
    01-29-2010, 06:58 PM
  #26
Green Broke
Abby is a standardbred by the way. She used to harness race until be got her and a trainer re-trained her to saddle. The trainer did a good job just that Abby needs some more tuning!
     
    01-30-2010, 08:43 AM
  #27
Showing
Although I've used martingales (tie downs) and training forks (running martingales for you English riding folks) in the past and would again if I thought it was necessary, the first thing I would do is to look to the physical for a problem. What I mean is to have saddle, teeth, bit, adjustments, etc. etc, looked at first. I would then look at the way I'm riding him and how much contact I'm giving his mouth or how I'm sitting on him.

If I found nothing, I'd go to the round pen or lunge line and work my horse there for a bit, maybe even long line him. If he was not doing it with me off his back, and there were no physical reasons for the behavior I might put a running martingale on very loosely. Sometimes it is just an avoidance issue and having him bump himself a few times might cure it. I use the running martingale for a short time just so that he realizes that throwing his head will cause discomfort.

Like the old story of the man who goes to the Dr. He raises his arm and says "Dr, it hurts when I do that" The Dr says, "Well then don't do that".

In any case that is how I handle a situation such as yours.
     
    01-30-2010, 09:09 AM
  #28
Trained
Great post iride!
     
    01-31-2010, 08:51 AM
  #29
Green Broke
Yeah! I think I just need to do some ground work with her. She's 8 and was only trained to saddle last year. And check her saddle, I might be putting it to far up.
     
    02-05-2010, 04:12 PM
  #30
Foal
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Originally Posted by MIEventer    
I agree, contacting the previous owner asking them why they use that particular bit. Find out if they knew it was a Dr Bristol, or did they believe it was a French Link like many mistake the mouthpiece to be?

I have a dear friend at my barn, who is 11, and rides a 16 year old TB. His TB came with a Waterford Bit. I dislike Waterford Bits.

After a while of watching the two together, I came out and asked "Why are you using that bit?" his response was "I don't know, it came with him"

I asked his Mother, "Why are you using that particular bit with this horse?" And her response was the same.

The BO heard our conversation and she said "Use what you need. If that is the bit that came with him, then there is a reason and I wouldn't change it"

So - I hummed. I was asked to ride the horse, and I put him in Nelson's Myler.

Guess what - the horse didn't need that blasted bit at all - it was human uneducation. Now, due to that, this horse has a very hard mouth, rigid, throws his head up in the air when you give the slightest twiddle with your fingers. Moves around with his back dropped, no topline, head carried high - has no education.

I got off, and told my friend that he doesn't need that bit. I rode the horse just fine without it.

So that is why I say - maybe, the OP's horse is using this bit, for no reason at all, but human uneducation.

So yes - ask his previous owner WHY does this horse "NEED" this bit?

Why do you dislike waterford bits? I use one and I LOVE it.
     

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