Originally Posted by Spirithorse
Teaching and making are two very different things. And I DON'T want a "head set." I want total body collection. Collection comes from the hind quarters, not from a "head set."
Then do what you want, but you seem to have some funny impression about some methods being more thorough or substantial than others. We're not taking any more shortcuts than you are when it comes to training.
I'd also like to claim that teaching and making are very similar when it comes to horses. If I can make my horse perform with a proper headset then I've taught him to do it. Otherwise, there's nothing. And for the record, the headset is not intended to make a horse more collected. It's purpose is to display the overall easy going nature of the animal you're riding.