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post #1 of 10 Old 02-18-2013, 10:11 PM Thread Starter
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English dressage saddle, need some expertise. :)


I am going to start dressage lessons soon..
I have been primarily western, and my western saddle was never anything special was just a hand me down from my first horse.

I have an English saddle my mother got me years ago that is getting sent to me. I don't know what brand it is yet.

Anyway, I want to know a decent English saddle brand. I found one at my local tack store it's a a wintec 2000 priced at 649.99 I kinda liked the look of it, it's black with suede seat.
And the second one is a wintec all purpose. I've tried to find some used ones but my size is 15 3/4 - 16. That one is 429.99
I can't find too many decent looking used saddles in this size.
My local tack store primarily carries the wintec.
But, I'm in Seattle almost every weekend so I could go to larger tack store if I had a better idea of what I'm looking for...
I will be meeting with my dressage trainer but I wanted more than one suggestion.

Edit- I also have a freeform treeless saddle, but I'm kind of thinking I want a traditional saddle to train in.

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post #2 of 10 Old 02-18-2013, 10:20 PM
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If you're looking to get into dressage, go for a dressage saddle. Same with jumping. The all purpose isn't going to give you the best of either and the saddle can have a huge impact on your seat. A lot of people really like the wintec dressage models.
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I'd avoid all purpose saddles if you can. They're a bit useless, I've got a synthetic one that I picked up really cheap as a beach saddle, great for that job because it can go in the water, get covered in sand and I just need to hose it off. 12 years later it still looks new. But I would never use it for my every day riding.

If you want to do Dressage, buy a Dressage saddle. And do yourself a favour and get a good quality leather Dressage saddle. Mine was 10 years old when I bought it second hand, and is still in beautiful condition with great quality leather. If you look after them, they will last you a life time.
Try and ride in a few different brands/models before you buy anything, a saddle that fits one rider may give the other one severe pelvic spasms!!

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I've tried to find some used ones but my size is 15 3/4 - 16. That one is 429.99
I can't find too many decent looking used saddles in this size.
Since you said that you are primary a western rider, I wanted to point out, those sizes are normally children sizes. When I bought my first English saddle I made the mistake of getting the same size as my western saddle. I normally ride in a 15" western, but English I use a 17". If you are just a very petite person then disregard this, I just don't you to make the same mistake I did if you normally ride in a 15 3/4 or 16 western(if that is the case you will probably want no smaller then a 17, possibly a 17.5 or 18")
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I did use a kids saddle when I rode western.

When I was trying out the English she said I was a size 16. But I liked the feel of the 15 3/4 better. I'm a shortie. Only 5'1. Hehe ^.^
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I've never seen 1/4 sizes in English saddles. You may want to make absolutely sure that you know your size and the saddle sizes. 15.5" and 15.75 are very uncommon. Also make sure they're being sized by either the stamp on the saddle or by measuring from the center of the nailhead at the side to the pommel to the center of the cantle.
I'm with the others. If you're going to do dressage, get a dressage saddle. You'll get a lot more saddle if you buy used.
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Niedersuiss saddles come in 16 3/4" and 17 1/2" only and is a very reputable English saddle brand.
So yes, saddles do come in 1/4" sizes.

As well I will add - I am 5'3, wear a dress size 6 and prefer saddles over 17" (I have the KN Allegro in a 17.5" and a Prestige D1 18"). A too small saddle is going to be a huge impediment on your riding, especially dressage. So please, ask a dressage trainer or a knowledgeable saddle fitter about seat sizes.

Anyways, I'm going to say skip the synthetic saddles and try to find a good used saddle that fits your horse well. Some good brands are:
Karl Niedersuiss

And there are many, many more saddles out there that are of great quality. These are some that used will likely be in your price range.
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I have a synthetic dressage saddle and a leather one. I absolutely HATE the synthetic - I use it on my breaker because it's almost impossible to fall out of [I've come out of it 3 times] but once she's a bit more broke, and a bit more mature physically, I'll be getting her something really nice. I'm in love with Black Country saddles [can't remember which model I sat in but it had textured leather, not smooth], so I'm really hoping to be able to find one of those, but a KN would be nice, or a second hand Bates. I'm not a fan of the latest model Bates saddles but have ridden in a Caprilli Show that was absolutely divine, two Innovas which I found so easy to ride in, and an Isabell. All second hand; I wasn't a fan of the Isabell but loved the others.

Don't bother with all purpose saddles. They're only good for people who want to do a bit of everything and can't afford two saddles, or for people who don't know what they want to do. I am primarily a jumpers rider, but I do event and dabble in dressage and show hack classes, so I have chosen to buy dressage saddles and jumping saddles rather than a saddle that is made to "do everything". The all purpose is a jack of all trades, master of none.

I am 5'1 and petite. I weigh less than 110 pounds sopping wet, in full riding gear. I ride in a 17.5 inch saddle, given the choice. My lovely Stubben close contact dressage is only a 17 inch and is a touch on the small side for me but is beautiful, fits my horse, and was cheap. I own six saddles and every one of them is either 17 inch or 17.5, bar one 16.5 inch all purpose. However, I know someone who is 5'8" and rides in a 16 inch saddle. It's all about your body shape, and the length of your thigh. Mine is very long, so I need a fairly big saddle.

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First of all if you have a horse look for the saddle that'll fit your horse and will keep you in a correct position. Sometime it's easy to find, sometime takes quite a while. And as couple people said already your best bet will be dressage for dressage.

I'm not fan of synthetic personally, and I agree with Anebel's list (although I never could use Stubben - it feels like a rock, and County is usually on higher price list), but want to add also

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