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    07-11-2012, 11:07 AM
English saddle?

Is this saddle worth anything, or not really?
Don't know a lot about English saddles, so any advice is helpful!

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    07-11-2012, 11:27 AM
Crosby is not bad (although older models feel like a board under the butt). $175 is quite cheap still, so I'd be really curious about the quality of the leather (how it was maintained) and soundness of the tree. Also narrow is really narrow from my experience.
    07-11-2012, 11:46 AM
Does this look like an older model?
I can email and ask about the quality/how it has been maintained.
This saddle would be for a pony. He is around 14.2, not built like a tank but not tiny either. Does it sound like it would be too narrow for him?
Thanks for the help tho, I really don't know about english tack!
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    07-11-2012, 11:56 AM
Crosby's are good. Looks like a Prix de Nations. Late 70's to early 80's probably. That price is about right for it, if it's in normal conditions without any problems. Hard to tell how wide it is without a straight-on shot or any measurements at all.
Be sure to check out/ask about the softness of the panels. Old flocking can be lumpy or even rock-hard. It should be smooth and provide ample cushioning to conform to your horse's back and provide shock-absorption. Also be sure to get a picture of all the billets to make sure they're sound.
A lot of people measure English saddles wrong. Make sure they've measured the seat from the nailhead at the pommel to the center of the cantle. A 16" saddle will typically fit a teenager, but is usually a bit small for an adult, unless you have very short legs. 16.5", 17", and 17.5" are the most common adult women sizes.
    07-11-2012, 12:20 PM
Originally Posted by freia    
Crosby's are good. Looks like a Prix de Nations. Late 70's to early 80's probably. That price is about right for it, if it's in normal conditions without any problems.
PdNs go for about $300 around here (but I'm in MD). However I agree it'll depend on age.

I do agree about seat size comment though. Unless you are short and slim 16" is quite small. :)
Could you ask for more (and better) pics of the flaps, under flaps, and bottom of the saddle?
    07-11-2012, 12:33 PM
Sent off an email asking those questions.
I have rode in my friends 16" before, it did fit, but I'm hoping this one maybe just got measured wrong and is an inch bigger ;)
This saddle looks a bit bigger then her 16" but what do I know.
I asked if they could re measure, and asked for more pics.
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    07-11-2012, 12:51 PM
Would something like the following be good/better? Looking to use it for mucking around on and learning to jump. Or, feel free to suggest something else! My price range is /around/ 300$

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    07-11-2012, 01:19 PM
Rather than going off your friend's saddle size, which may or may not be a 16", and fit will depend on a lot of things, try using the following links to get a good starting point to estimate your seat size. Remember that English saddle seat sizes don't so much go off the size of your butt as the length of your femur.

English Saddle Seat Size Calculator
Saddle Sizing Info

Look through this thread about tree sizes as well.
A question about measuring

What discipline will you be riding: general backing, pleasure, dressage, some jumping? Do you like a flat seat or a deep seat? Do you like having no knee pad or knee blocks (close contact saddle) or do you like some support at the knees?

Once you know your seat size, tree width, and style you like, then start looking.

The Crosby PdN is a respectable saddle. It has a flat seat and no knee support. Good A/P saddle.
In your last post, saddles 1 and 3 are jumping saddles. Saddle 2 looks A/P. All 3 of those are going to give your more support and probably more cushioning than the older Crosby.
    07-11-2012, 01:24 PM
SB, 1st and 3rd saddles are OK (I'm talking about the brands here), however I'm pretty sure 2nd one is some kind of India or Vietnam-made junk (never even heard about it). You can look more into Wintec: I've seen some in a very good condition under $300 (to me $400 sounds little bit too much).
    07-12-2012, 06:32 PM
Originally Posted by freia    
Remember that English saddle seat sizes don't so much go off the size of your butt as the length of your femur.
Sorry, chaps - this is a commonly held belief but strictly speaking it's NOT true.

Think about it this way. Sit in the correct position in the saddle (roughly the middle) and let your legs hang down. Now put your feet in the stirrups. Your knee moves forward and up. Does your seat slide back? No, it doesn't (or it shouldn't). So the length of your femur affects the cut of flap you need to choose, not the seat size.

There are a few exceptions (aren't there always?) but as a general rule this applies.

Just thought I'd say

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