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    10-20-2011, 03:28 PM
  #1
Yearling
English Saddle Advice

Okay, so I have been needing to get my own saddle. I have been borrowing a friends for a while, but honestly it doesn't fit Jake properly and due to him being off I am considering anything and everything may be causing it. So I no longer will use that saddle. But I have no idea how to shop for a saddle that will fit both me and him. =\

I know that I fit decently in a 17 regular flap saddle. And Jake I think requires a wide (He is stocky build) but due to his age, he has higher withers and finding a wide saddle that won't sit on his withers is becoming a pain in my rear. I am hoping he needs a wide, from the saddle fitting videos I have seen I believe his tendon is about 4-5 finger lengths apart.

If Jake remains sound I have a goal of doing Jumpers and eventing. Anyone know of brands that will be wide but still have a good clearance around his withers?

I am looking at a budget of under $850 and mostly looking at used saddles over ebay and consignment shops in my area. But I honestly don't know what saddles would be a steal and which ones I should avoid. Any and all advice would be great.
     
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    10-20-2011, 08:59 PM
  #2
Showing
I really like M Toulouse (I have one). Comfortable, grippy, and in your price range. It may NOT fit your horse, of course, but if you see one in your local consignment I'd give it a try.
     
    10-20-2011, 10:00 PM
  #3
Yearling
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Originally Posted by kitten_Val    
I really like M Toulouse (I have one). Comfortable, grippy, and in your price range. It may NOT fit your horse, of course, but if you see one in your local consignment I'd give it a try.
I actually have been seeing a lot of these on ebay and in consignment shops in my price range. I'll have to see if I can get my hands on one. Thank you. XD
     
    10-21-2011, 05:08 PM
  #4
Weanling
I second M. Toulouse. Really, really nice saddles.

You can also check out Pessoa, Collegiate, Phillipe Fontain, Circuit, and Ovation.

I think those are around your price range, at least they are used, and most come with a wide option.
     
    10-24-2011, 03:19 PM
  #5
Yearling
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Originally Posted by DejaVu    
I second M. Toulouse. Really, really nice saddles.

You can also check out Pessoa, Collegiate, Phillipe Fontain, Circuit, and Ovation.

I think those are around your price range, at least they are used, and most come with a wide option.
I forgot to check this post. But anyhow I have been riding in an Ovation with a regular tree. I love it for myself, but it fails to have the wither clearance Jake needs, and going wide is not going to keep it off his withers. That is my main problem is having enough room for his wide back/shoulders and clearing his high withers. -sigh-

Would a saddle fitter be able to look at him and suggest a saddle for me to buy?
     
    10-24-2011, 03:33 PM
  #6
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The job of a saddle fitter is to fit saddles on horses - but you'll have to pay him.
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    10-24-2011, 03:46 PM
  #7
Yearling
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Originally Posted by Barry Godden    
The job of a saddle fitter is to fit saddles on horses - but you'll have to pay him.
Wasn't expecting a fitter to come out for free. I have the money to pay for it. Yet the question was more of what exactly does a saddle fitter do? Do they take a saddle you already bought and then alter it to fit the horse, or do they measure and look at the horses and riders conformation to help find what fits best? So am I looking at trying to find the best saddle possible and then get it stuffed as needed...or call one before hand and have them suggest saddles?
     
    10-24-2011, 04:00 PM
  #8
Foal
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Originally Posted by Horsesdontlie    
Wasn't expecting a fitter to come out for free. I have the money to pay for it. Yet the question was more of what exactly does a saddle fitter do? Do they take a saddle you already bought and then alter it to fit the horse, or do they measure and look at the horses and riders conformation to help find what fits best? So am I looking at trying to find the best saddle possible and then get it stuffed as needed...or call one before hand and have them suggest saddles?
The local saddle fitter here charges $75, and she measures you and the horse. Then drops off about 3-4 saddles to see which one you like best. I was quite amazed she had four 18.5" saddles in her trailer for me to try. There was no obligation to buy.
     
    10-24-2011, 04:34 PM
  #9
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The saddle fitter asks which type of saddle do you want?
Ie GP, dressage, endurance, jumping, hunting.

He/she then looks at the horse, then measures the width of the horse's back
And the length of the dip in the back. He considers the shoulder and the depth of the barrel of the horse.

He tries several saddles from his stock and chooses two or three and then checks to see they fit. When he is happy he asks the rider to mount up.

The pair of horse and rider then ride around the arena with the saddler fitter watching. He asks the rider if he/she is comfortable.

He watches to see whether in his opinion the saddle is maintaining its position on the horse's back. He uses his experience and training to advise which saddle will suit the best.

The saddler looks for marks left by the saddle on the horse's back.

When he is happy that you and above all the horse is happy, he presents his bill for the saddle and the fitting.

He ought to offer to recheck the saddle in three months to make sure the saddle still fits - if necessary he might have to re-stuff it.

The problem is always that a rigorous programme of training and riding will give cause for the back muscles to firm up - in which case the saddle will require adjustment merely because the shape of the back has changed.

Remember a poorly fitting saddle is a major cause of disobedience in a horse.

PS Buy a leather saddle if you can afford it.

PPS Dial up the web site of the www.idealsaddle.co.ltd and look up the fitting instructions.

PPPS A Mclellan military saddle is the cheapest and most widely fitting English cut saddle ever designed. They are still made in Sth Africa
     
    10-24-2011, 04:41 PM
  #10
Super Moderator
Try looking for used Passier saddles. They have cutback pommels which really help with high withered horses. I have one that I use often with those high guys.



     

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