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    08-14-2011, 07:49 PM
Green Broke
Question English saddle help?

How can I measure for a good fit for my horse?
Like which gullet size?

He is a Quarter horse. He has broad shoulders but high withers.

I am looking at the Supra AP saddle, two of my friends have them and they seem to like them a lot. Any opinions?
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    08-14-2011, 10:20 PM
Well... You can't really. You can use something like "gullet tool" (don't remember the name of it) - wintec has it to tell what gullet you want in saddle with "interchangeable" gullets, but it's not very helpful. Unfortunately with english saddle its not just "gullet". You have to take into account the shoulders, spine width, spine angle, etc. The best way to go is to take tracings and then contact saddle fitter/tack store and ask for recommendations. That's what I did in past.
    08-15-2011, 12:59 PM
Green Broke
Thanks Kitten, that helps! I think I will do that wire shaping with a coat hanger for the withers and back.

Yeah, I was thinking about the Wintecs interchangeable gullet system. Are they the only ones who have that because they are synthetic?

Would I just take measurements with a measuring tape? And pictures for better help?

Unfortunately, I don't think we have a pro saddle fitter :( But I do trust my trainer to help me with it. I am just looking for some info about english saddles to get an idea :)
    08-15-2011, 01:14 PM
A horse with high withers is usually narrower behind the shoulder blades than a horse with low withers. Start with a medium tree. If it's too close to his withers consider a saddle with a cut-back pommel which allows more room.
    08-15-2011, 01:21 PM
I was in the exact same position as you. I rode a stocky QH with broad shoulders making him a wide gullet. Unfortunately Supra saddles only come in one standard gullet size and that was much too narrow. I called Greenhawk and they told me there are no other sizes. If you're also shopping at greenhawk I suggest bumping up to the Val du Bois saddle package which is a billion times better. :)
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    08-15-2011, 01:51 PM
Originally Posted by Ray MacDonald    
Would I just take measurements with a measuring tape? And pictures for better help?
Here are the instructions. Wither Tracings Read their "Saddle Fitting" section: they give quite a bit of information on what to look for. Good luck!
    08-15-2011, 03:43 PM
Green Broke
Yes actually I was going to buy from greenhawk! LOL
Whats Val du Bois? Is the supra leather or synthetic?

Thanks for the info guys!
    08-15-2011, 03:48 PM
The supra is a very cheap synthetic. It also doesn't mould to the horse well. The val du bois has calfskin leather seat and french leather flaps etc. The only problem with the Val du bois is that its a wooden tree which could warp is its kept in moist places. Still, its better than the composite tree of the supra.
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    08-15-2011, 09:44 PM
[QUOTE=Ray MacDonald;1137272]

Yeah, I was thinking about the Wintecs interchangeable gullet system. Are they the only ones who have that because they are synthetic?

Wintec is the main first leading brand that carried the changeable gullet system, but it has spread to a wider range of brands. Example; Bates (which is made by Wintec), Pessoa, M. Toulouse (adjustable tree. The one I'm getting), and a couple others. Those I listed above are all quality leather. So, no. It's not because they are synthetic.

Now, the Wintec gullet system, is just bars placed accordingly to the horses size. If your horse happends to be somewhere in between the sizes, then you just have to heat and hammer the bar to the size needed. (I have gone through this). The reason I'm getting the Toulouse, is because the tree adjusts millimeter by millimeter. Much easier to adjust.

As far as fit, as has been said, just make some cut outs or something and take it in, to try up against some different saddles.
Saddles are like shoes. One brands medium tree, is anothers wide tree. You just have to try a couple and see what works best.
    08-16-2011, 05:02 PM
Green Broke
Thanks! We are going to look at some saddles on Thursday, we are going to GreenHawk as well as a used tack shop to see if we can find good saddles for less $$ lol

What are some really good quality saddles and brands that I should look for?

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