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post #1 of 14 Old 10-17-2011, 01:29 PM Thread Starter
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English saddle issues - again

I've only used this saddle twice. Once in a show and then again for a lead line class. I haven't pulled it out since maybe July? It's a 17 inch Bates Next Generation. I currently have the extra-wide gullet in it. This gullet appears to fit well at the withers but then has a little room at the shoulders until you cinch the girth.

When I put it on yesterday he was fine until I went to put the girth on. He pinned his ears and moved away. Now he was in a crappy mood anyway and I'm thinking because he did this BEFORE I even pulled the girth under his belly that maybe it's just brattiness.

I know these arent the best pix and I'll get better ones this week. But I wanted to see what you guys thought at a quick glance. I also wanted to know if there is an orthopedic pad that I can buy? I have a thinline half pad but I was wondering if there was an orthopedic type deal.

My last 2 english saddles were too narrow so he may just be gunshy of the english saddle. I have had Chiro work done on him and will do so again next month but he's fine and not in pain.
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FP, hate to ask this, but... Did you have a saddle fitter out for him when you got it? The pics you posted don't really show the fit.

P.S. I had to re-adjust my saddle just last month, because it didn't fit well enough with them changing the shape.

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I took him to a tack shop and they put about 15 different saddles on him. The bates was the closest fit. I think in a couple more years when he's done growing I'll be able to have one made... :(

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I think in a couple more years when he's done growing I'll be able to have one made... :(
Not necessarily. Mine was a great fit last Fall and this Spring. They changed backs during Summer --> needed to call the fitter out (she changed bunch of stuff on it). Heck, those fitting issues are VERY annoying.

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yeah. I hate to have to have one made but I geuss that's my next step huh? I'll post pictures of the saddle tonight or tomorrow. I may tack him up western and then retack english for a photo shoot...

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Do you have a thinner cloth you can use instead of what appears to be a thick pad? I suspect his ear pinning is a bluff, that he's hoping you will untack him and put him away. Have some fun with him. Tie a length of twine to your girth buckle and pull the girth up against him and watch his ears. Use the twine to lower it well away then bring it up again. Bore him to tears with it, then do up the girth.
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yeah. I hate to have to have one made but I geuss that's my next step huh? I'll post pictures of the saddle tonight or tomorrow. I may tack him up western and then retack english for a photo shoot...
Being so wide he sounds like a good candidate for Black Country if you'll have to go that way (price is biting on those though).

P.S. I'm guessing if he's just trying to scare you away rather than saddle issue.

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What are these for and do they go above or below the saddle pad?

Exselle Comfort Riser Saddle Pad - Statelinetack.com

A thinner pad would be more comfortable?

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The main purpose of thinline is to absorb the shock. So if you are bouncy or jumping or whatever else hard on back it protects (and you can indeed tell the difference when you use one). BUT they are pricey (unlike the one you posted).

P.S. I got one several years ago (the standard countour one) and never regretted it.

P.P.S. It doesn't help with the fit (which I find to be great). Just adds the protection.

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The main purpose of thinline is to absorb the shock. So if you are bouncy or jumping or whatever else hard on back it protects (and you can indeed tell the difference when you use one). BUT they are pricey (unlike the one you posted).

P.S. I got one several years ago (the standard countour one) and never regretted it.

P.P.S. It doesn't help with the fit (which I find to be great). Just adds the protection.
This is the one I have. I've used it once but not with this new saddle:

Ultra Thinline Sheepskin Half Pad < Wither Back and Half Pads < Horse Tack|Dover Saddlery.

Am I supposed to put it above or below the saddle pad?

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