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post #1 of 9 Old 06-06-2013, 08:09 PM Thread Starter
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English Saddle Questions

I was just wondering if anybody could tell what this saddle is for. If its just an all purpose or what. The Leather billets have nylon backing as well. Is that good?
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I'd say All Purpose. The seat is fairly deep & the flaps are fairly straight. Most CC saddles have a bit flatter seat to make it easier to get out of the saddle & the flaps are curved forward. It very well could be a CC as well though. Sometimes it's so hard to tell between the two as some makers will make more Dressage style All Purposes (I had a Courbette like that) or CC style All Purpose. Don't really have a comment on the nylon backed billets. My Wintec had billets like that (not real leather) and I don't think it ever compromised anything. Don't quote me on it though - I seriously don't know if it's good or bad.
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Difficult to be 100% sure, but it looks like a Far East made saddle to me. They quite often use web-backed girth straps for safety reasons because the leather's not very good quality :(

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Difficult to be 100% sure, but it looks like a Far East made saddle to me. They quite often use web-backed girth straps for safety reasons because the leather's not very good quality :(

It does and it also looks so narrow I can't imagine it fitting any horses.
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I think it looks like an A/P with tendency towards dressage. It's pretty deep seat, and the flaps are more straight as opposed to forward.

Is there a maker's mark or anything stamped on it giving any indication as to its origin or brand? How does the leather feel? Is it soft and supple, or thick and stiff? Does the color look like it's stained all the way through or painted on? Those will all give clues as to its origin and quality.
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I think it looks like an A/P with tendency towards dressage. It's pretty deep seat, and the flaps are more straight as opposed to forward.

Is there a maker's mark or anything stamped on it giving any indication as to its origin or brand? How does the leather feel? Is it soft and supple, or thick and stiff? Does the color look like it's stained all the way through or painted on? Those will all give clues as to its origin and quality.
The leather is a solid color all the way threw. Its all very soft and supple. I picked it up for a little of nothing. Its extremely comfortable. I just didn't know what its purpose was. When you sit in it is really deep and secure feeling. I have never rode english. I have only sat in a few. So I really don't know anything. I would say its on a narrow tree. Fits a couple of our walkers who require semi quarter bars.
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If the leather is nice quality, you may have gotten lucky and found a nice little saddle. Usually, the cheap Asian imports have leather that is so awful it doesn't even look or feel like leather - more like thick cardboard. Some mom/pop shoppe saddleries sometimes didn't put a name-plate on their saddles. You may have found one of those.
The purpose of the A/P saddles is pretty much to just go riding to enjoy your horse comfortably. They're not for any particular discipline or for anything high-performance. You can use them for a little bit of everything, but for nothing too extreme. With the straighter flap, it lets you have a longer stirrup length, which a lot of people find quite comfortable. On the Walkers, make sure the tree-points are at least 2" (maybe a little more with that big shoulder-movement) behind the rear edge of the scapula. If you lift the flap of the saddle, you'll see a pocket just in front of the billet straps. This is the pocket that the rigid points of the saddle-tree sit inside of. Be sure that the horse's shoulderblade won't bump into it when it moves out and rotates that shoulder. And enjoy!

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Im "hoping" that I will be able to retrain our 8 yo TWH in it. She is about 14.1-14.2hh but she is very refined. She is a beautiful little mover but I have been letting her sit in the pasture for the past two years and the the guy who had her before me let her sit a year. We ride her here and there but not consistantly. I am due to have a baby in september so I am hoping to restart her after that and after my gallbladder surgery. It seems to fit her really well and I didnt notice any conflict with her shoulders. My 5 yo ssh was a pain to find a saddle for because her shoulder blades hit everything (and I mean everything) I spent thousands trying to find a saddle for her and I finally bought a custom saddle and took it to somebody to tear completely down and fit the tree and redo the rigging to fit her. '

On the english saddle the only thing I can find is "18" stamped on the billets and that is it. The lighter colored leather is like buttery soft. It has a couple scrapes on it but shows no wear. The darker leather is still soft and supple but its not as soft as the lighter leather.

Also, I know irons come in different sizes, do I measure the widest part of my boot to figure out what size I need or what?

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The "18" is the seat size. It's an 18" seat, which is on the roomier side. Most women use a 17" or 17.5", but some larger women like an 18" .Most men use a 17.5" or 18".

For the irons, wear the boots you'll be riding in. You want the width of your boot at the ball of your foot, then add 1". You want 1/2" (or 1 finger-width) on each side of your boot, between your boot and the side of the iron. That usually comes out to about 1" plus the boot-width. The most common size is 4.75", but you never know, so measure. You want enough room to get your foot out, without making it so roomy that your foot can go through it.
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