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    07-26-2009, 01:48 AM
  #1
Foal
Fence problem. Need assistance.

I'll try to keep it as short as possible....

I have two horses and a 6 acre pasture. The property is a T shape with the top of the T being the pasture area. There are neighbors on both sides of me so the top of the T runs behind each neighbor's property. (make sense?)

The fence behind one neighbor is barbed wire and runs about halfway around the entire 6 acre pasture. We are not certain who owns the fence but will be checking with the county auditor soon. The neighbor is NOT a nice or reasonable person so getting permission to replace the fence that borders his and my area isn't a valid possibility.

I do NOT want to have barbed wire fencing for my horses and would prefer to install a poly electric fence around the entire pasture.

If it is determined the fence does not belong to us, and wanting the pasture to be as safe as possible for my horses, I'm not sure what to do about the fence.

I could install the poly electric on my side of the property line but how much room should I give between the poly and the barbed wire? I'm not keen on having to mow between two fences. Does anyone have a better idea? I'm truly baffled at this point.
     
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    07-26-2009, 02:15 AM
  #2
Green Broke
I would just add connectors to the barbed wire and extend the poly electric so the horse can't get closed to the wire. If it's on t-posts, they do make connectors.
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If the neighbor complains, then install your own posts, right up against their fence (1-2" between fence lines).
     
    07-26-2009, 08:23 PM
  #3
Foal
1.) What state do you live in? Check your laws concerning fence right-of-ways and setback rules. I live in Ohio and here we have no setback law. The fence can actually sit a fraction of an inch inside my property line and there ain't a darned thing my neighbor can do about it. Plus, here we have a law in conjunction with that and it says that I have a 4-foot right-of-way on HIS property to build and/or maintain my fence. So, as long as I don't damage his property, I can walk on, drive a 4-wheeler/tractor etc. on his property and he can't do anything about that, either. If it's on his property and you do have a setback rule, he needs to move his fence as per zoning ordinance XX#x.

2.) Is the fence being shared? If the fence is yours and he is sharing it (we do that here where 2 farms that butt up against each other will share the property line fence) and he's being mean and nasty about everything...it's your fence, do what you want, and he should just be thankful that he got to use it as long as he did...and you can invite him to share in your new, safer fence as long as he can be nice. Lol. Seriously...here, that's how it is, plain and simple. If the other farmer wants a fence there after the owner wants to take it down, he has to put up his own.

3.) If it's a shared fence right smack on the property line, you'd have to probably go to court over the rails and the posts, but you can still do whatever you want with whatever's on your side of the fence, and he can do whatever he wants with whatever's on his side. A - He has to move the barbed wire over to the face of the post on his side if he wants to keep it; or B - you can cut the ends of the barbs off of whatever's on your side. (hey, 1 less barb end is better than 2!). Plus, you can put your insulators on your side of the posts and then run your electric. If you use the yellow plastic ones instead of the round ones they stick out farther...or the white t-post is good, too.

4.) If the fence is his, then you just erect your own fence right on your side of the property line. It'll be inside the barbed wire, so the horses will have to get a shock before they get to the barbs. If your horses are like mine, they won't even challenge the wire when it's turned off. Lol

The only other thing that I can think you should check on is if your township or city has a zoning ordinance restricting electric fence. Some places require that you have written permission from the property owners on all sides. Some don't allow it at all. Some don't care. Where I live, we just had a big fight over that. The zoning board "streamlined" the code and almost gave the farmers the shaft on just about everything. In the process they ordered "no electric fences"...because in true political form, NO ONE on the zoning board knew anything about or had any experience in agricultural husbandry of any animal, and they all thought that the elec. Fences we were using were like the kind you see in the movies...with the sparks flying. One guy says, "Why can't you guys just use some kind of low-impedence pulse for that?!"...and all at once 270 ppl said "WE DO!!!" Duuuuuuh. Lol It turned out good because we all learned that before that discussion, we weren't supposed to have an elec. At all! Now we can all have elec. And be happy. =D
     
    07-27-2009, 08:22 AM
  #4
Showing
Frankly instead of confronting with the neighbor I'd just put the another fence (electric) on your side may be a 1/2 - 1 foot away from the barbered wire with the top and mid string being hot (so the horses woudln't feel like sticking head in). That's what we did (not because the neighbor is nasty, but because I couldn't catch him to discuss the options. And since the other fence was very old we just put another one on our side). I always have a big fear fighting with the neighbors because who knows what they can feed to the horses afterwords when you are not around.... Yes, I know I'm paranoiac, but some people are just plain crazy (and mean).
     

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