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        08-31-2010, 08:02 PM
      #1
    Weanling
    Fixin to spend some money

    Im NO pro.I am new to owning a horse all I know is what he came with.I have had him a year and im ready to buy new stuff.My saddle is old and the leather is tearing in places and im not so sure im using the right bit for him.How do I know what he needs and why.

    I ride western and he has a snaffle bit is a big paint 16 hands.
    Here are a few pics of what I have and what he looks like

    I don't know if im asking the right questions or not but what are the best brands and so forth.How do I know what size saddle
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        08-31-2010, 08:40 PM
      #2
    Weanling
    From the last picture, it looks like the saddle is laying on the Withers a lot, and that's a huge no no in saddle fitting. That is a pressure point, and probably greatly annoys your horse. A good saddle will be expensive, very expensive. I would try to get a used saddle. Good brands of saddle; Billy cook, circle y, simco, dakota. I would look for a Dakota because I love all of mine and you can get some lightly used ones for less than 400$! DON'T waste your money on some cheapo leather saddle from ebay, those won't last you at all. If you need cheaper, go with like a Synthetic saddle; Abetta, Big Horn, Circle Y, make good synthetic saddles. It also looks like you are using English reins and no breast collar. I would invest in some western reins, I prefer non-split reins because I don't like worrying about dropping them, but that's a preference. Your horse probably needs Semi-QH bars. I would invest in a nice wool pad, some good brands of saddle pad are reinsman, impact gel, five star. Off brands of saddle pads can be great too, though. I would also try an English Hackamore on him, i'm a firm believer of hackamores though, so again, that's opinionated. Try a tom thumb bit if he listens well, I like these a lot for no reason. What do you plan on doing with him?

    Here's some good prices and everything I mentioned above.

    Nylon Mustang Western Bridle Set Navajo Overlays-Black - eBay (item 390229122164 end time Sep-21-10 18:20:23 PDT) Comes with everything except a saddle pad and bit/hackamore.

    Championship Equine Brand Wool Felt & Foam Saddle Pad - eBay (item 180281919398 end time Sep-14-10 14:32:55 PDT) Decent saddle pad, for a good price.

    NEW 2-way adjustable Hackamore English Hackamore - eBay (item 220645381492 end time Sep-27-10 09:36:41 PDT) Hackamore. Mine is a lighter tan though and I love it.

    New Western Tom Thumb Snaffle Bit Horse 5" Mouth - eBay (item 250688372341 end time Sep-02-10 18:35:18 PDT) Tom thumb if you think a bit is a must.

    AND FINALLY :) The saddle.
    15" circle y park and trail cordura saddle Good brand, nice price, it's synthetic which is very easy to keep clean and up-keep.
         
        08-31-2010, 08:59 PM
      #3
    Weanling
    I have no plans for him just pleasure riding.I have been thinking about a hackamore he rains well with just a halter and rains attached so I think he would do well in a hackamore..Thanks.I will look into all the links you gave
         
        08-31-2010, 09:04 PM
      #4
    Weanling
    Ok. Remember, it's better to spend the money now, then having a sore horse later with a whole bunch of vet and chiropractor bills.
         
        08-31-2010, 09:15 PM
      #5
    Yearling
    For saddle fit, get an experienced person to help you. The fit is critical. You can only learn so much from pictures and descriptions, and you don't want your horse to suffer for that.
         
        09-02-2010, 04:41 PM
      #6
    Foal
    HI,
    Cute guy! Looks like he has a sweet personality! I agree with the other poster on a hackamore or bitless bridle set-up. I use one on my mare and she responds really nicely in it. As for saddles, definitely something that will get off his withers.. will be more comfortable with the both of you! I like a suede seat, but that's a personal opinion.. feels like I'm more secure. Anyhow, here's a link to my site where I have a lot of new & used tack. Check the used items at the lower bottom tab there are a lot of name brand and quality used items for a fraction of the price.. Here's a link: Equine Closet-Dressing Your Horse in the Very Best! Best of luck!
         
        09-02-2010, 05:59 PM
      #7
    Yearling
    If he rides well in the snaffle don't change it. A hackamore can be detrimental to a horse in the hands of an inexperienced rider.
    Most people prefer a simple snaffle for the reason is that its basic why fix whats not broken?
    Buy a new saddle sure but get it fitted proffessionally so at least it fiyts him and you
         
        09-02-2010, 07:21 PM
      #8
    Green Broke
    I completely agree ^^ Snaffle- perfect! Saddle- get an expirienced person in your area to look at your horse, we can't really tell what saddle to get from just two pictures. But do spend the money for one that's going to last, I personally love Wintec ;)
         
        09-02-2010, 07:39 PM
      #9
    Banned
    Ok. I agree and disagree with some of the previous posters. I am a horse owner on a budget so I know what you mean! You don't want to blow your whole budget on tack when you may have other things pop up like vet bills, farrier bills etc.

    I disagree with a hackamore. If he rides fine on the snaffle, stick with it. While a hackamore is great for a horse who doesnt like or need a bit...a horse that has been trained to a bit may feel a bit more in control with a hack. That is opinion and has been my experience. Its also easy to miss-fit a hack and you could really hurt your horse with the wrong placing.

    Saddle wise, your saddle does sit too low on the withers. I prefer big horn saddles and you can usually find a good LEATHER one used pretty reasonably. They come in semi-QH bars which should fit your horse. Your saddle looks to have full QH...hence the saddle sliding down on his wither. You are looking for a saddle with a 6 to 6 3/4" gullet. I disagree that you cannot get a good saddle cheap. You just have to be willing to look. I just got a beautiful bighorn saddle on ebay...all leather, in perfect condition for $145. Bighorns are built for comfort. They sit deep and are made with good leather. I dislike synthetic saddles...a lot. I think the lack of maintence is the only thing I do like about them. While they are lighter...this isnt always a good thing. A leather saddle is meant to weigh down and properly distribute your weight over a large square inch portion of your horses back. When your sythetic starts curling up at the skirting (and it will!) the weight stays right where your butt sits. Stick with something that is labeled 'pleasure' or 'trail' saddle. Getting to specific on saddles "barrel", "roping" can really mess with your position in the saddle.

    Get yourself a good saddle pad. I love reinsman pads and they are an abundance of them used on ebay. (can ya tell I have a problem with ebay? LOL) Even a regular new reinsman pad (not their high end models) only go for around 40+shipping.

    As far as a bridle goes...if its just for a romp or two around the local trails I prefer a nylon bridle. Easy to clean, easy to change bits and if it gets too ugly, chuck it in the garbage and pick up another for $10. Leather involves cleaning and conditioning. You will be doing enough of that with a saddle!

    Spend the extra few bucks and get him a proper girth. Weaver makes a smartcinch that is sooo easy to cinch up and doesnt pinch. The string girths that you have on your saddle can pinch if they arent positioned just right. They can also rot if they get wet. If the cinch breaks while you are riding, you might as well bend over and kiss your hiney goodbye!

    Your horse is adorable. I just love him. Did you ever figure out what exactly he is?
         
        09-02-2010, 08:10 PM
      #10
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by corinowalk    
    Ok. I agree and disagree with some of the previous posters. I am a horse owner on a budget so I know what you mean! You don't want to blow your whole budget on tack when you may have other things pop up like vet bills, farrier bills etc.

    I disagree with a hackamore. If he rides fine on the snaffle, stick with it. While a hackamore is great for a horse who doesnt like or need a bit...a horse that has been trained to a bit may feel a bit more in control with a hack. That is opinion and has been my experience. Its also easy to miss-fit a hack and you could really hurt your horse with the wrong placing.

    Saddle wise, your saddle does sit too low on the withers. I prefer big horn saddles and you can usually find a good LEATHER one used pretty reasonably. They come in semi-QH bars which should fit your horse. Your saddle looks to have full QH...hence the saddle sliding down on his wither. You are looking for a saddle with a 6 to 6 3/4" gullet. I disagree that you cannot get a good saddle cheap. You just have to be willing to look. I just got a beautiful bighorn saddle on ebay...all leather, in perfect condition for $145. Bighorns are built for comfort. They sit deep and are made with good leather. I dislike synthetic saddles...a lot. I think the lack of maintence is the only thing I do like about them. While they are lighter...this isnt always a good thing. A leather saddle is meant to weigh down and properly distribute your weight over a large square inch portion of your horses back. When your sythetic starts curling up at the skirting (and it will!) the weight stays right where your butt sits. Stick with something that is labeled 'pleasure' or 'trail' saddle. Getting to specific on saddles "barrel", "roping" can really mess with your position in the saddle.

    Get yourself a good saddle pad. I love reinsman pads and they are an abundance of them used on ebay. (can ya tell I have a problem with ebay? LOL) Even a regular new reinsman pad (not their high end models) only go for around 40+shipping.

    As far as a bridle goes...if its just for a romp or two around the local trails I prefer a nylon bridle. Easy to clean, easy to change bits and if it gets too ugly, chuck it in the garbage and pick up another for $10. Leather involves cleaning and conditioning. You will be doing enough of that with a saddle!

    Spend the extra few bucks and get him a proper girth. Weaver makes a smartcinch that is sooo easy to cinch up and doesnt pinch. The string girths that you have on your saddle can pinch if they arent positioned just right. They can also rot if they get wet. If the cinch breaks while you are riding, you might as well bend over and kiss your hiney goodbye!

    Your horse is adorable. I just love him. Did you ever figure out what exactly he is?

    I didn't say a cheap saddle as in price, I said cheapo leather saddle, which means don't buy some off brand saddle that has really cheap leather on it. You bought a Big horn which I happened to have posted in my recommended brands list. My students saddle is synthetic and old, and it hasn't started curling at all anywhere, and distributes her weight fine, a lot better than some of the leather saddles she has ridden in.
         

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