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post #11 of 30 Old 02-13-2009, 08:34 PM Thread Starter
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Hey Allie,
I appreciate your post, I might take you up on the offer of the bit and speaking of which, I've got the cooler aside for you(I actually found it among the stuff I "need" for Cobalt. If you come down next week remind me to put it in my car.

This bit business is so stressful because I want to make the best decision for this pooch and there are so many options available. I want to try to make the most educated decision I can.

Thanks again for all the posts everyone.
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post #12 of 30 Old 02-13-2009, 08:41 PM
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I think the Billy Allen would act to much like a mullen mouth or curb...

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post #13 of 30 Old 02-13-2009, 08:42 PM
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I used a thickish french link fulmer when I broke the baby in. It was nice and gentle on him and it couldnt pull thru his mouth when he was first figuring out to give to the presure. I used it for about 6 months before putting him into a double jointed loose ring.
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When I first got Joe, he was 3 but chances are since he was trained to race he already was used to the bit. But I used a rubber bit on him (those baby ones or w/e.) For the longest time! We even started jumping in it, he loved it. Then our next bit, which we have now is the French Link and he does pretty good in it. Personally if I ever get another young horse that is 3-4 years old I will start them in a rubber bit.

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post #15 of 30 Old 02-13-2009, 11:46 PM
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I agree with what others are saying about using a french-link or billy-allen, but I just want to add, like Miss Katie said, that I think a Fulmer/Full-cheek snaffle would be really good for babies as you have no chance of it pulling through his mouth like a loose-ring or eggbutt might and it makes for really clear signals. As my instructor tells me, "sometimes with young horses you have to be Captain Obvious". Lol!

E.g. french link snaffle items at low prices on eBay.com.au

I was given an instructional DVD on mouthing for Christmas, and one of the breaker's ideas was to put rubber tubing on the cheek pieces of the Fulmer snaffle, just for added comfort and protection for the horse.
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Yes but getting a full cheek anything is quite extreme for a horse that has never had anything in his mouth. Same idea as throwing them in a pelham as their first bit. With the right hand and training you can get the results without using something as rough for first bit.
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post #17 of 30 Old 02-14-2009, 12:00 AM
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How is a full-cheek a rough bit?
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A full cheek snaffle provides some leverage (which you can adjust to more or less of it depending on where you keep the keepers). When putting pressure on the rein you not only have the snaffle action but the leverage which puts pressure on the poll. Way to much for a horse who's never been worked with. With his first bit, I want something simple that will do the opposite.

I appreciate your idea, but definitely not what I'm looking for, for his first bit :)
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Ah... ok, I wasn't thinking in terms of keepers or leverage, merely the benefits of the cheek-pieces themselves. I meant just use the bit like a normal snaffle. But I see what you mean, and I agree, no poll pressure when it comes to a first bit. Thanks for clearing that up!
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Ah... ok, I wasn't thinking in terms of keepers or leverage, merely the benefits of the cheek-pieces themselves. I meant just use the bit like a normal snaffle. But I see what you mean, and I agree, no poll pressure when it comes to a first bit. Thanks for clearing that up!
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