I have a no brand (none that I could find) 17" saddle that was used... Once, or twice. Not sure if it fits into the show quality type, and may be a bit lighter. Definitely not narrow, was used on a stocky qh with higher withers. I see you are in Arizona, I'm not sure what the shipping cost. I am asking 250 for it. It's a decent saddle, padded seat, comfy. (Way too big for me, it came with a horse I was given to find a home for after she threw her owner... I think he just fell off since there was nothing wrong with her either. In fact, she's now a lesson horse for kids just starting, go figure) let me know if you are interested and I can give more pictures. Saddle pad comes with it, as well.