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    01-26-2012, 09:56 PM

I was having problems with Luna moving choppy with her head up high. I fixed the choppy stride by investing in a saddle that fits her a lot better than my old one.
I'm still looking for a good bit that won’t cause her to be so high headed and toss her head. I've tried tie downs and training forks which would fix the problem but I felt like these were just masking the problem and not really fixing the issue.
I've rode in a halter and the head tossing and high nosed issues go away but I lose a lot of my brakes (I can still stop her but not to a point where I feel comfortable). I've thought about trying a hackamore but I worry about losing my brakes. I don't have any experience with one, is that even an issue or does it put enough pressure on their nose to get a better stop?
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    01-26-2012, 10:53 PM
What kind of bit are you currently using?

Have her teeth been floated?

Can you post a picture of the horse, or a video of you riding her?
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    01-26-2012, 11:53 PM
What type of hackamore are you considering using?
    01-27-2012, 12:52 AM
I'm currently using an el cheapo bit like that which comes with a western bridle when you purchase it. I already know that this isn't a great bit but I needed to try something other than the tom thumb and that was the only other thing we had in the tack room and I didn't feel like spending money until I had some sort of direction on what to buy.
Come March she's having her teeth floated, I've noticed she drops some grain when she eats. However the high headed issue has persisted years before she started to show symptoms of teeth issues. The teeth may very well be contributing to the factor but I don't think they are initially what started the problem.
I looked through my pictures and I really don't have a good one of her demonstrating the behavior. I ride alone, there’s not many pictures of my actually on a horse :(
As of for what type of hackamore . . . I don't know. I don't know anything about them. That why I started this thread :) I figured I'd get some opinions from some actual riders not just some promo ad on the internet.
    01-27-2012, 01:09 AM
Horses need their teeth floated every year. Her head tossing very well could have started from her teeth.
    01-27-2012, 02:20 AM
Posting a picture would help ALOT. There are many different types of hackamores and different ways to use them. That said, if there are teeth issues the first thing to do is get her teeth floated. If they have gone several years without a float her mouth could very well be sore and head tossing is a very good indicator of a tooth problem.

If it is her teeth you won't change her behavior by switching bits and by continuing to ride could in fact make it much worse. I replied to a hackamore thread earlier that was VERY similar to yours and some very good advice was given in that post. If I can find the link I will post it for you.
    01-27-2012, 02:24 AM
Here you go:

Hackamore and horse behavior
    01-27-2012, 03:02 AM
I would get the teeth at least looked at sooner rather than later. Then I would ditch the current bit. She's good in a halter--why? I'd objectively evaluate my riding to see if I'm subconsciously handing on the reins and bothering her. Ride with more slack and from the seat as opposed to the hands. When reintroducing a bit, I'd start with a snaffled or shanked Myler with a very low port. And I would worry far less about getting her head down than I would worry about stopping the head tossing and getting her listening and responsive at all gaits.
    01-27-2012, 03:03 AM

^ And just so you know, that mare is not meant to ever have a really low WP headset. She's more of a cow/speed type, built with a slightly more upright neck.
    01-27-2012, 03:13 AM
Originally Posted by bubba13    

^ And just so you know, that mare is not meant to ever have a really low WP headset. She's more of a cow/speed type, built with a slightly more upright neck.

She would match my gelding! I've got a real soft spot for Palominos! Good luck!

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