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        01-24-2013, 08:35 PM
      #81
    Trained
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    Originally Posted by Elizabethan87    
    That's a different kind of bridle, see how that one has two attachments and mine has one? I pulled mine in the front, because the way that one is designed it was too bulky against him. And... Why am I explaining this. Lol
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    Because you are trying to make yourself look like you know something when in fact you don't. Every post shows your lack of experience and sadly often your lack of social skills.

    I'm top side of 50, makes me old, means I have a bunch of experience, but hey I'm still learning.

    TIP, when someone tells you your tack isn't fitted correctly it is good to so " Oh yes, thanks" and then put it right, not make excuses as to why it's wrong. I'm shocked that someone who doesn't want to use a bit doesn't care about the comfort of their horse in that sensitive spot behind their ears.
         
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        01-24-2013, 08:41 PM
      #82
    Trained
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    Originally Posted by Elizabethan87    
    Alright, now I know as a fact that my horsemanship skills are far beyond this idiotic conversation my thread has been reverted too. That is the most rediculous crap I have ever heard! I've had horses my entire life, and I've been on both sides of the line here with bit use. I guarantee that I am 100% right in my statement that horses don't "LOVE" the big peice of pinching metal in their mouth. I bet your horses have algae in their water bucket too. And I bet you board at a facility. And ride English. And wear helmets. And hold the lead rope under the chin. And I bet you're going to reply in defense to these facts at how you most certainly are none if these things blah blah blah. If you use a bit, you don't know how to train your horse. FACT
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    Around these parts, peops who ride bitless are called novices, exactly which olympic rider goes bitless? In the NRHA, which are bitless again, sorry missed it. With that statement, you just showed how little you know. It fine to enjoy your mechanical hackamore, but you never raise your skill level, or feel what's it's like to have a horse come to your hand, raise it's back muscles to your seat and allow you to frame him as you want. All you are going to get with a mech hack is steering & stop & reverse, all on the forehand.
         
        01-24-2013, 08:42 PM
      #83
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Golden Horse    
    Because you are trying to make yourself look like you know something when in fact you don't. Every post shows your lack of experience and sadly often your lack of social skills.

    I'm top side of 50, makes me old, means I have a bunch of experience, but hey I'm still learning.

    TIP, when someone tells you your tack isn't fitted correctly it is good to so " Oh yes, thanks" and then put it right, not make excuses as to why it's wrong. I'm shocked that someone who doesn't want to use a bit doesn't care about the comfort of their horse in that sensitive spot behind their ears.
    Thanks
         
        01-24-2013, 09:01 PM
      #84
    Super Moderator
    Look at it this way, Elizabeth. IF I had a thread about a bit that I was curious about , or wanted ideas on what bit to use, and someone asked why I don't use a hackamore and I said something like "people who use hackamores have no horsemanship skills and are cruel to their horses", it would really piss off a whole bunch of folks and set them bound and determined to explain why it wasn't cruel or a sign of bad horsemanship.

    Your blanket statements were pretty insulting to a large number of people here, so it's no surprise that "your" thread didn't turn out the way you thought it would.
         
        01-25-2013, 03:08 AM
      #85
    Green Broke
    I will add I am well over the age of 25 and have had horses since I was 2. I've cvompeted at top level in the showring and retrained difficult abused horses that proffessionals have told me to shoot so I'd say my horsemanship is very good thanks, perticularly as I have trainied a Para dressage horse who was longlisted for 2012.
         
        01-25-2013, 10:56 AM
      #86
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Elizabethan87    
    Alright, now I know as a fact that my horsemanship skills are far beyond this idiotic conversation my thread has been reverted too. That is the most rediculous crap I have ever heard! I've had horses my entire life, and I've been on both sides of the line here with bit use. I guarantee that I am 100% right in my statement that horses don't "LOVE" the big peice of pinching metal in their mouth. I bet your horses have algae in their water bucket too. And I bet you board at a facility. And ride English. And wear helmets. And hold the lead rope under the chin. And I bet you're going to reply in defense to these facts at how you most certainly are none if these things blah blah blah. If you use a bit, you don't know how to train your horse. FACT
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    I was going to nicely tell you that your hackamore in your first picture is too low on your horses face, which is why it doesn't look like it fits, and that a properly-fitting bridle would fix the problem. I was also going to politely tell you that if my coming 4yo draft cross gelding who wears a draft size halter and bridle doesn't even need a draft size hackamore, then your little QH/arab looking horse doesn't need a draft size hackamore. I was going to show you a picture of my boy wearing his leather nosepiece Little S that we use on the trail. And then I read this extremely rude statement made by you and I lost all interest in you or your ideals.

    I board because I live on half an acre that is not zoned for livestock. My horse's water bucket is clean and fresh, as my BO dumps and cleans them every day (even when she was nine months pregnant). I ride in an Australian stock saddle and am going to be taking English lessons soon. I wear a helmet because I have a nine-year-old son that I want to be around for as he grows up. Having a green-as-grass horse, it's a case of better safe than sorry. When I lead my boy, most times I toss the rope over his shoulder and don't touch it. My gelding goes equally well in an eggbutt french link snaffle as he does in his Little S. We use the Little S on the trail because we follow and he moves off leg pressure if I do need to direct him. We use the french link in the arena because I want to three-day event and you can't use a hack in that discipline. He doesn't fight the bit and he is perfectly happy because I have light hands and I only touch his mouth if I need to reinforce what I'm asking him with my legs or weight.

    Don't assume.
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        01-25-2013, 11:13 AM
      #87
    Trained
    Save your breath Drafty, looks like the OP has left us
         
        01-25-2013, 11:15 AM
      #88
    Super Moderator
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Golden Horse    
    Save your breath Drafty, looks like the OP has left us
    Yes, but any constructive advise may help anyone else looking in with a similar question or problem


    So, thanks for the advice Drafty

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        01-25-2013, 02:59 PM
      #89
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Golden Horse    
    Save your breath Drafty, looks like the OP has left us
    Eh. I'm on my phone so I can't tell much. That statement she made just rubbed me the wrong way and I felt I needed to say something.
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        01-27-2013, 10:07 AM
      #90
    Banned
    Copied and pasted in a comment made to RG by "elizabethan87".... "This is off subject, but wow, they really really really hate you on the horse forum. I started a thread about hackamores, and people flooded it with how much their horses love bits blah blah blah... Anyways I put excerpts of knowledgeable information and links to your website, links to other YouTube videos explaining how the bit effects the horse, and how to train for a bosal... I think I got banned. Oh well. I don't have time for those morons, I just wanted to help them with their horses. :/." ..... If the moderator banned her, I can't say that I blame them. If she thinks that hackamore is any easier on a horse than a bit,she definitely needs to do a little more research.Just because the metal leverage pieces are not in the mouth,certainly does not make it better than a bit. She is another example of why this forum gets a bad reputation in some circles.Bravo moderator!
         

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