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        12-10-2008, 02:29 PM
    Hackamores and breastcollars

    When I first bought Poco I used a full cheeck snaffle on him and it only went from bad to worse so I started using a side pull on him. Well, over the past 5 years he has become EXTREMELY headstrong out on the roads and I can't have that. I have two hackamores in mind a Stran Smith mechanical and a Jim Warner. Both in which I like alot. I was just wondering if anyone else has ever used either of these. Also, I cannot find a breastcollar that will fit Poco. Everything is too small by like 5-6 inches. He is 15.3 hands and weighs approx. 1125 pounds. Nothing works out. I thought about a mohair breastcollar but I really can't pay all that much and it not fit. Any help on finding a bit larger breastcollar? Draft size is too big but horse size seems to small.
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        12-10-2008, 04:26 PM
    You can buy extensions for a breast collar, or use a piece of bailers twine while you are still searching. Any shoe repair place could make one out of leather. It needs a clip on one end to reach the D ring and something for the clip on the original collar to attach to the extension.
        12-10-2008, 04:27 PM
    Sorry can't help you out on the bit problem, but any breastcollar should work with the right length straps.
    I am attaching a photo of my husbands horse with her mohair collar on. See the straps that attach it to the saddle? Those can be many different lengths to accommodate different horse sizes. The same sort of strap attaches to the cinch underneath
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        12-10-2008, 11:17 PM
    A cheap fix for a breast collar that doesn't quite fit is a leather dog collar.
        12-12-2008, 06:59 PM
    Dumas is right, a leather dog collar will work great. As for the bit problem, I would look at some re-training for softness before moving to a mechanical hackamore. They can be VERY harsh and cause more problems than they solve. Also, have you had his teeth checked to ensure that they were not the problem with the bit? I am a firm believer that a harsher bit never solves a problem. Try working him in an arena to get him more responsive to softer cues before you take him on the trail.
        12-15-2008, 10:38 AM
    The only things I use any contact with his head for is to ask him to stop. He's trained to neck rein. The vet in VA did recommend to have his teeth floated. She said they were very minor right now but would progess if they werent done. (Hes scheduled for after the holiday). I don't put a bit in his mouth. He does great when you ride in a halter as well but its just when take him out on the road and he gets excited and doesnt want to stop.
        12-16-2008, 11:03 PM
    It kinda sounds like you need to do some back stepping and fill in some holes in training. I don't think you have a bit problem. Going to something with more controll doesn't always help but can make things worse just like smrods stated. I would do some ground work where your horse is at and when he's good there take him out to the road. If he acts up on the road then you can use the excerises you did on the ground and do them out there so that he will learn he can't get away with acting up. I have a mare who use to want to rush home, pop up, and jig real bad. I just made sure I had time to work with her because you never want to end on a bad note. I spent many rides doing circles, backing up everything but move forward. When she would settle then we would walk forward, but the min she would act up again it was back to the circles. A ride that might normally take you 15 mins can end up taking you an hour but it only takes a few times before they get the clue.

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