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    06-25-2009, 09:58 AM
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So....it's been over 20 years since I've used a hackamore on a horse (so long I can't even spell it anymore!). Anyway. I have a western pleasure mare that hates western pleasure. I've taken her out of the port bit and put her in my older QH's trail bit, it's a copper snaffle w/ a chin chain. She does ok w/ it, she sets her head with it even (she is so trained she does it automatically). I was thinking she might be happiest in a hackamore...

So... I geuss I'm asking if people have switched from bridle to hackamore, what the transition is like...and I don't know... pro-s and con's... not planning to show her ever again unless on a local level, shown by my five year old in a walk maybe walk/trot class. (she is mechanically lame - sound to ride w/ a permanent limp do to scar tissue and tendon damage from a tramatic injury).
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    06-25-2009, 10:06 AM
Does the snaffle have shanks? Because if it has, it's not a snaffle.. just a shank bit with a broken mouthpiece/a curb (I don't understand the ''w/''..is it with or without?) :P I've never heard of a snaffle with a chin chain, can't see the point in it, but maybe that's common in western riding?

If it's a regular snaffle (no shanks) it's more gentle than a hackamore so I don't see why you should change.

Hackamores are harsh curb bitless, don't think they're gentle just because they're not in the mouth. But the horse might very well like it better anyway, and they're not mean, they have a good/nice purpose when used in the right situation and way. But they are stronger than a snaffle.

I don't know enough about western riding to say much about pro and cons in this situation, but try it in a fenced area and you'll see how she react. If she understands the preassure on her nose there shouldn't be much differense.
    06-25-2009, 11:36 AM
Farmpony, did you try her in halter? Just rope halter with reins attached to the knot. I'd do that before considering the hackamore. If she'll like it and will be relaxed hack will be the next stop. I don't see any problems with the transition though. I really recommend to put more money and get nice balanced one (from what I know it's very important).
    06-25-2009, 12:22 PM
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My wording was bad. Yes, it's a copper shank bit. (That was the english in me coming out...) anyway... it's Pistols bit and it's not harsh at all. I did actually have her in a halter w/ reigns clipped on last night but she didn't listen at all...

She is the horse that my five year old rides. She mostly just follows me around. My ring is grass for now but I am going to sand it soon and I don't have a fence around it yet so I don't mind that she follows me everywhere. I don't want her in a port w/ him on her because he gos from now contact to harsh contact in the blink of an eye. I know that hackamores place preasure on the airways if I remember right so... Then I thought, what about just putting her in an english bridle w/ a copper roller bit maybe?
    06-25-2009, 12:33 PM
Originally Posted by farmpony84    
\it's Pistols bit and it's not harsh at all. I did actually have her in a halter w/ reigns clipped on last night but she didn't listen at all...
Then I thought, what about just putting her in an english bridle w/ a copper roller bit maybe?
Sounds like she's not used to nose pressure. You can still train her, but she may like it less than bit. You just never know. Have you try french snaffle on her? Copper roller can make her happy too (I'm still thinking about trying one on mine).

I'm not against hackamores, sidepulls and such, but after trying all that on my horses they seem to prefer more the simple french snaffle (they are picky though, they don't like Korsteel). I know bitless bridle works for many people, but they are way too expensive to try and find out they don't like it. Lol!
    06-25-2009, 12:34 PM
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I'll try the copper roller and then the french snaffle then. Thanks Kitten! I just want her to be happy as possible since she's a childs horse now and RETIRED from the show ring (which she never entered because she was wicked outside the home environment...)
    06-25-2009, 12:50 PM
Good luck with the roller one! Let us know how she'll do - I always love to hear how horse accepts new stuff.

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