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        07-24-2010, 04:34 PM
      #11
    Green Broke
    [QUOTE=Spyder;700100]I would be most concerned when somerone said their curb strap broke.

    This is a curb bit which means it exerts a lot of power and NEVER should enough pressure be applied for either the rein or strap to break (unless it was in such poor repair the it was falling apart).



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    The curb strap was old and I shouldn't have used it(it was a bit brittle and it was an idiotic decision). I should have used my newer one. I hold the reins loosely to where it is comfortable. I do not yank at her mouth. I do have a trainer that I take lessons from. I love my trainer,she is absolutely awesome but I going to have to find a new trainer that is closer by because of the cost of gas to get to and from my trainer's house. There is a girl who trains at my stable. She rides really well and said she would help me out so I think I will take up the offer.



    I DO APPERCIATE everyone's advice and answers because I did not know how harsh this bit was....my horse does need to be retained in a snaffle but the guy who I got the horse from gave me a curb bit( he got it on clearance and I found out why once the vet came out...it was bent!). My friend has a bit that I am interested in using..it's a training bit that she has for her mustang..if used correctly it is not harsh..i forgot the name of it but I am basically just wanting a bit my horse WILL respond to. She does leg cues and neck reins but I prefer to do double handed.
         
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        07-24-2010, 04:41 PM
      #12
    Banned
    I am a curb bit user. In the right hands, in my opinion, they are just as gentle as any bit out there. My horse, like yours, goes on mostly leg cues. I ride with a very very loose rein and am not a yanker. Nico came to me, like your horse, with a curb bit. I tried everything under the sun on him and we are back to the curb. I would like to take the time to retrain him on a snaffle but he is a western riding horse and plain snaffles are only for the youngsters. Try other bits, for sure. I like this one for a transition bit. It still works like a curb, with a curb chain and with using poll pressure. I find it less harsh than a straight curb. The copper helps soften them up a bit too. Milepost Tom Thumb Horse Bit with Copper & Stainless Mouth - 4007452 | Tractor Supply Company
         
        07-24-2010, 04:49 PM
      #13
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by corinowalk    
    I am a curb bit user. In the right hands, in my opinion, they are just as gentle as any bit out there. My horse, like yours, goes on mostly leg cues. I ride with a very very loose rein and am not a yanker. Nico came to me, like your horse, with a curb bit. I tried everything under the sun on him and we are back to the curb. I would like to take the time to retrain him on a snaffle but he is a western riding horse and plain snaffles are only for the youngsters. Try other bits, for sure. I like this one for a transition bit. It still works like a curb, with a curb chain and with using poll pressure. I find it less harsh than a straight curb. The copper helps soften them up a bit too. Milepost Tom Thumb Horse Bit with Copper & Stainless Mouth - 4007452 | Tractor Supply Company

    Thank You!
    I think I will go and purchace it. It might be what I am looking for.
    I do like my curb bits. I use very light pressure with her and a touch of the rein she repsonds most of the time..sometimes I use a little more pressure but only when needed.

    Curb bits can be just as gentle as you said. But a snaffle can also be harsh if used with extreme force and cause lip sores but that will happen with all bits.
         
        07-24-2010, 04:52 PM
      #14
    Yearling
    But if you're doing English, you'll want a bit you can use with contact. (Of course, I use contact with a curb because of my walkers, but that's neither here nor there)

    Experiment with different metals. Copper, sweet iron, plain.. rollers and without rollers.. thinner and thicker.. if your horse HAS to use a curb, there's a fatal flaw in her training.
         
        07-24-2010, 06:20 PM
      #15
    Showing
    One of the main things that makes that bit so harsh is the straight mouth. Unless a horse has been properly prepared and trained to accept that type of mouth and taught to carry the bit themselves, then they don't do well in a bit of this type. One of the side effects of putting pressure on this bit is it will often cause the horse to gape it's mouth in an attempt to relieve the pressure on it's tongue. I would personally go back to the snaffle and not use any other bit until she is exactly like you want in the snaffle first. If she isn't listening, then it is a training problem and a stronger bit won't solve it.
         
        07-25-2010, 02:18 AM
      #16
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by vivache    
    But if you're doing English, you'll want a bit you can use with contact. (Of course, I use contact with a curb because of my walkers, but that's neither here nor there)

    Experiment with different metals. Copper, sweet iron, plain.. rollers and without rollers.. thinner and thicker.. if your horse HAS to use a curb, there's a fatal flaw in her training.


    My horse DOESN'T have to have a curb bit but that is what she is used to. I plan on trying out different snaffles. I like the sweet iron.
         
        07-25-2010, 03:51 PM
      #17
    Started
    My mare was trained when I bought her to use a low port swivel shank bit. She works really really well in it, stops, side passes, gives to both sides, etc. But, when I am just riding her on the trails or tuning her up in the arena, I use a ring snaffle which helps when she is being lazy and needs a bit more "give".
    I have also used an argentine snaffle, which is very mild.
         

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