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    12-04-2011, 09:41 AM
  #1
Foal
Red face Help me ID this bridle

Hello all, I'm new here and also newly retired. I have resumed painting after a 40 year hiatus, and am attaching a copy of the picture I want to paint next.

The woman riding is my mom, who immigrated to the US when she was 21, in 1928 and bought a riding stable. This picture was taken about 1942. The original is badly damaged so some areas have been retouched. The part of the picture that is mystifying me is the bridle arrangement. It appears that mom is holding two sets of reins. The problem is that I can't discern how the 2nd rein attaches to the bridal. Can anyone explain this?

Also, there seem to be 2 "rises" at the rear of the saddle, almost like one saddle is placed on top of another. What's up with that? If I'm going to the trouble of painting the picture, I want it to be accurate, even if I don't show all the details.

By the time I came along in 1949, mom had married my dad, closed the stable, and sold most of the horses, the business just was not reliable enough to support a famiily. Therefore, the only riding I did was on an old mare they kept named Magic Star - she was a dapple gray Tennesee Walking Horse.

So - can anyone help explain this - I'll post the painting when I'm finished.
Sandi
     
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    12-04-2011, 09:50 AM
  #2
Banned
Would love to help, but there is no attachment to view.
     
    12-04-2011, 10:03 AM
  #3
Trained
You've peeked my interest and then disappointed me all in one post!
     
    12-04-2011, 03:44 PM
  #4
Foal
Sorry -Trying again

The original photo was badly damaged - I had retouched (with a sledgehammer) it to repair it as much as possible. Apparently the forum format does not accept the file type, so I have reduced it and changed it to a .jpg file.

I am trying to post the entire photo as well as one that is limited to mom's head and hands as well as the horse's head showing the bridle.

I have previewed and it appears the 2 photos are there, so please check them out and let me know what you think.
Thanx,
Sandi
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    12-04-2011, 03:51 PM
  #5
Weanling
It looks like the second set of reins attaches to a long-shanked mechanical hackamore.
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    12-04-2011, 04:13 PM
  #6
Banned
Wow, sorry I'm going to be able to help much.

My guess is that second rein is either on a mechanical hackamore or that there's a curb bit with an S shaped shank. The problem is I don't really see a second set of cheekpieces for the second bit, so I'm going with the hackamore theory.

I think that what you see behind the saddle is a very thick saddle pad, like the old numnahs.
     
    12-04-2011, 04:19 PM
  #7
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I think the retouching has made a bridle with only one set of reins look like one with two. That "second" lower rein is, I think, actually the left rein, but the retoucher put it on the wrong side. It looks like a plain full cheek snaffle to me.
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    12-04-2011, 04:20 PM
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Weanling
Now that tinyliny brought that up, I agree. You can't see any reins on the opposite side of the neck, and the chances of them being perfectly lined up are slim.
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    12-04-2011, 04:21 PM
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As for the "double" saddle back, I think it is somekind of "underpad" that is sticking out of the main pad.
IN any case, you, as the artist, can change it to be a regular jump saddle.
It's an adorable picture and will make a lovely painting. I do hope you will show us the work, as a work in progress and as a finished piece.
     
    12-04-2011, 04:29 PM
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Nope, I can't make it work. If the top rein is actually the left rein; which sort of makes sense, then the bottom rein is attached to the bit in a way I don't understand. If the bottom rein is actually the left rein, I can't make it fit in the rider's hand correctly.

I kind of think yoo're on to something and the top rein is actually the left, but how to figure out the bit attachment?
     

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