Help me ID this bridle - The Horse Forum
 2Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 18 Old 12-04-2011, 10:41 AM Thread Starter
Foal
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
Posts: 7
• Horses: 0
Red face Help me ID this bridle

Hello all, I'm new here and also newly retired. I have resumed painting after a 40 year hiatus, and am attaching a copy of the picture I want to paint next.

The woman riding is my mom, who immigrated to the US when she was 21, in 1928 and bought a riding stable. This picture was taken about 1942. The original is badly damaged so some areas have been retouched. The part of the picture that is mystifying me is the bridle arrangement. It appears that mom is holding two sets of reins. The problem is that I can't discern how the 2nd rein attaches to the bridal. Can anyone explain this?

Also, there seem to be 2 "rises" at the rear of the saddle, almost like one saddle is placed on top of another. What's up with that? If I'm going to the trouble of painting the picture, I want it to be accurate, even if I don't show all the details.

By the time I came along in 1949, mom had married my dad, closed the stable, and sold most of the horses, the business just was not reliable enough to support a famiily. Therefore, the only riding I did was on an old mare they kept named Magic Star - she was a dapple gray Tennesee Walking Horse.

So - can anyone help explain this - I'll post the painting when I'm finished.
Sandi

Last edited by maura; 12-04-2011 at 10:51 AM.
Sandi1949 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 18 Old 12-04-2011, 10:50 AM
Banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 5,289
• Horses: 0
Would love to help, but there is no attachment to view.
maura is offline  
post #3 of 18 Old 12-04-2011, 11:03 AM
Trained
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Northern Utah
Posts: 5,455
• Horses: 1
You've peeked my interest and then disappointed me all in one post!

There's nothing like the Rockies in the springtime... Nothing like the freedom in the air... And there ain't nothing better than draggin calves to the fire and there's nothing like the smell of burning hair. -Brenn Hill
kevinshorses is offline  
post #4 of 18 Old 12-04-2011, 04:44 PM Thread Starter
Foal
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
Posts: 7
• Horses: 0
Sorry -Trying again

The original photo was badly damaged - I had retouched (with a sledgehammer) it to repair it as much as possible. Apparently the forum format does not accept the file type, so I have reduced it and changed it to a .jpg file.

I am trying to post the entire photo as well as one that is limited to mom's head and hands as well as the horse's head showing the bridle.

I have previewed and it appears the 2 photos are there, so please check them out and let me know what you think.
Thanx,
Sandi
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Mom_SkipperThum.JPG (19.0 KB, 90 views)
File Type: jpg MOMJUMPSM.JPG (15.2 KB, 89 views)
Sandi1949 is offline  
post #5 of 18 Old 12-04-2011, 04:51 PM
Weanling
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Posts: 506
• Horses: 2
It looks like the second set of reins attaches to a long-shanked mechanical hackamore.
Posted via Mobile Device
FreeDestiny is offline  
post #6 of 18 Old 12-04-2011, 05:13 PM
Banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 5,289
• Horses: 0
wow, sorry I'm going to be able to help much.

My guess is that second rein is either on a mechanical hackamore or that there's a curb bit with an S shaped shank. The problem is I don't really see a second set of cheekpieces for the second bit, so I'm going with the hackamore theory.

I think that what you see behind the saddle is a very thick saddle pad, like the old numnahs.
maura is offline  
post #7 of 18 Old 12-04-2011, 05:19 PM
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 39,781
• Horses: 2
I think the retouching has made a bridle with only one set of reins look like one with two. That "second" lower rein is, I think, actually the left rein, but the retoucher put it on the wrong side. It looks like a plain full cheek snaffle to me.
Wallaby and Allison Finch like this.
tinyliny is offline  
post #8 of 18 Old 12-04-2011, 05:20 PM
Weanling
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Posts: 506
• Horses: 2
Now that tinyliny brought that up, I agree. You can't see any reins on the opposite side of the neck, and the chances of them being perfectly lined up are slim.
Posted via Mobile Device
FreeDestiny is offline  
post #9 of 18 Old 12-04-2011, 05:21 PM
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 39,781
• Horses: 2
as for the "double" saddle back, I think it is somekind of "underpad" that is sticking out of the main pad.
IN any case, you, as the artist, can change it to be a regular jump saddle.
It's an adorable picture and will make a lovely painting. I do hope you will show us the work, as a work in progress and as a finished piece.
tinyliny is offline  
post #10 of 18 Old 12-04-2011, 05:29 PM
Banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 5,289
• Horses: 0
Nope, I can't make it work. If the top rein is actually the left rein; which sort of makes sense, then the bottom rein is attached to the bit in a way I don't understand. If the bottom rein is actually the left rein, I can't make it fit in the rider's hand correctly.

I kind of think yoo're on to something and the top rein is actually the left, but how to figure out the bit attachment?
maura is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the The Horse Forum forums, you must first register.

Already have a Horse Forum account?
Members are allowed only one account per person at the Horse Forum, so if you've made an account here in the past you'll need to continue using that account. Please do not create a new account or you may lose access to the Horse Forum. If you need help recovering your existing account, please Contact Us. We'll be glad to help!

New to the Horse Forum?
Please choose a username you will be satisfied with using for the duration of your membership at the Horse Forum. We do not change members' usernames upon request because that would make it difficult for everyone to keep track of who is who on the forum. For that reason, please do not incorporate your horse's name into your username so that you are not stuck with a username related to a horse you may no longer have some day, or use any other username you may no longer identify with or care for in the future.



User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.


Old Thread Warning
This thread is more than 90 days old. When a thread is this old, it is often better to start a new thread rather than post to it. However, If you feel you have something of value to add to this particular thread, you can do so by checking the box below before submitting your post.

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Looking for leathers to match this saddle-bridal too if price is right Rachel1786 Tack and Equipment Classifieds 11 11-05-2011 05:01 PM
Whats kind of saddle would you condsider this? and bridal question! BWolters Horse Tack and Equipment 18 12-02-2010 11:58 PM
Clipped everyones bridal paths yesterday 8D twogeldings Horse Grooming 0 04-26-2009 01:13 PM
Bridal/ Headstall Hunt HooverH Horse Tack and Equipment 6 05-19-2008 02:30 PM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome