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post #1 of 18 Old 05-20-2009, 03:37 AM Thread Starter
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Help, what would fix this problem?

Hey guys, I need help. So a girl at my yard recently got a new horse, three days after buying her, she got in a car accident. :/ She can't ride her horse now, but her horse needs excersize. She she's asked me to ride her.
She is an eight year old TB Mare, I've been riding her in her owners Australian stock saddle, she uses a Eggbutt snaffle.
So here's the problem.
She braces against the reins, opens her mouth, lifts her head up really high and pulls on the bit. If you give her a loose rein she bolts.
Sooo.. What would be the best thing to help here? :/
I was thinking a drop hanoverian noseband?
Maybe a running martingale?
I was told by her owner she might need a harsher bit, but I don't really like harsh bits. :/

Note, She isn't in any pain. Teeth have recently been floated, vet checked her out before she was bought. So please don't say that. :P

Any advice would be awesome. :)

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post #2 of 18 Old 05-20-2009, 04:25 AM
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you sound like you know what you're doing.... go with the martingale... I had a mare that did the same. Used to hold the bite and speed off.... changed her bit to a loose ring french link. And she was much better... and the bit is no harsher, I feel

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post #3 of 18 Old 05-20-2009, 07:30 AM
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It sounds like a horse that missed a lot of training/retraining or had some pretty harsh riding. I would suggest starting her over again. Get her into a round pen and start your work there. If there are no physical problems then the gaping mouth, hollow back, bolting, etc come from avoidance and fear.

If you don't know the history of the horse I would keep the bit you have and begin training as though she was just started. It's actually going to take more time because you will have to overcome what sounds like the really poor training or very harsh treatment she came with.

Going to harsher bit is definitely not the right way to go.

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I didn't want a harsher bit, that was just one piece of advise. And she doesn't hollow her back. She doesn't so much bolt either, probably used the wrong word, but if you loosen the reins she speeds up. I don't think it's her training, supposedly she was a really good pony club horse. :/

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I would try a bit with a 3-piece mouth, like a french link or oval mouth. She may not like the pinching on her tongue. Or maybe a mullen mouth bit.

Also check your saddle fit. That behavior can be due to pain in her back.
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Also check your saddle fit. That behavior can be due to pain in her back.
Brand spanking new saddle, only just bought it, fitts perfect, had the sadde fitter out and all. :)

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I didn't want a harsher bit, that was just one piece of advise. And she doesn't hollow her back. She doesn't so much bolt either, probably used the wrong word, but if you loosen the reins she speeds up. I don't think it's her training, supposedly she was a really good pony club horse. :/

Any horse that puts their head in the position you say this horse does IS hollowing her back.

A dropped noseband or flash will help with the open mouth and ensure the bit is secure and not moving around.

You need to go back to the very basics and start with ground work on the lunge with side reins.
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My TB had a lot of problems having a low mouth with a snaffle bit. Changed him to a french link and all the bit chewing stopped and he stays relaxed.
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Any horse that puts their head in the position you say this horse does IS hollowing her back.

A dropped noseband or flash will help with the open mouth and ensure the bit is secure and not moving around.

You need to go back to the very basics and start with ground work on the lunge with side reins.

She throws her head up, her back does not change. She is not hollowing.
She's been trained well, she's not going back to ground work, she doesn't need it.
She's just stressed, we're working on making her calm down and not expect bad things to happen.

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She throws her head up, her back does not change. She is not hollowing.
She's been trained well, she's not going back to ground work, she doesn't need it.
She's just stressed, we're working on making her calm down and not expect bad things to happen.
Good luck then.
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