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post #1 of 10 Old 08-03-2012, 05:49 PM Thread Starter
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How does this saddle fit?

I am borrowing this saddle from a friend. I don't think it fits seeing the sweat patterns.

Let me know!

*I slid it back after the first pic.
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I am borrowing this saddle from a friend. I don't think it fits seeing the sweat patterns.

Let me know!

*I slid it back after the first pic.
Where you riding in the saddle or just lounging?
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I rode, is that bad??

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Just wondering because dry spots can happen because of the saddle not making contact or if there is to much contact. Id say it doesn't fit properly and may be to narrow of a tree. I would love to see what others have to say.
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I'm not so sure the tree is too narrow. The pommel is sitting quite nicely lower than the cantle, and the center (dip) of the saddle looks to be pretty much in the middle. A couple of things I notice are:
-1- Is the saddle too curved along the length? It kind of looks like the very back of the panels isn't making good contact? Ie is the saddle more curved than your horse?
-2- Is the saddle sitting too far back? The tree points should be around 2" behind the back edge of the scapula, and the billets should line up nicely with where the girth needs to lie. The back edge of the panels almost looks like it might be sitting behind the last rib. Did you let the saddle sit where it naturally wants to settle? Try finding the back of the scapula and the tree points and see where that puts it vs where it "wants" to sit.

How did your horse move in it? Freely, relaxed, comfortably, or tense and ear-pinning?
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I'm not so sure the tree is too narrow. The pommel is sitting quite nicely lower than the cantle, and the center (dip) of the saddle looks to be pretty much in the middle. A couple of things I notice are:
-1- Is the saddle too curved along the length? It kind of looks like the very back of the panels isn't making good contact? Ie is the saddle more curved than your horse?
-2- Is the saddle sitting too far back? The tree points should be around 2" behind the back edge of the scapula, and the billets should line up nicely with where the girth needs to lie. The back edge of the panels almost looks like it might be sitting behind the last rib. Did you let the saddle sit where it naturally wants to settle? Try finding the back of the scapula and the tree points and see where that puts it vs where it "wants" to sit.

How did your horse move in it? Freely, relaxed, comfortably, or tense and ear-pinning?
I think I see what you mean. It maybe to far back. I will try just letting it settle tmr. I had one of the best (English) rides. He felt nice and free and he was seeking contact more than usual.

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Did you check for any area right in the middle that might have been pressing harder? I don't know what you call it but it would be the opposite of bridging.

Off hand, I think it fits decently, especially if brought forward an inch.
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Did you check for any area right in the middle that might have been pressing harder? I don't know what you call it but it would be the opposite of bridging.

Off hand, I think it fits decently, especially if brought forward an inch.
I don't know what it's actually called either. I just call it "high-centering". I know a lot of people can run their hand between the panel and the horse for the length of the panel to feel bridging and high-centering, but I've never developed the right feel for it, unless it's pretty extreme. I think it takes a well-trained hand.
Here's what I do if in doubt: I take a tracing of the length of the back. I start where the tree-points should sit (so about 2" behind the scapula) and go back. I do this about 2 inches from the center of the horses spine, so I'm getting the shape of the back along the muscles where the panels will rest. I make sure to match up my tracing to the correct locations on the underside of the saddle and see if the profiles match. For the tracing, I use a flexi-curve, but you can use a coat hanger as well.
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I'm afraid it looks a little too low in front to me, not a surprise given the CC-type panel and your horse's slightly pronounced shoulder. Sliding back is another sign. It's often not a tree width problem but a panel adjust problem.

It's possible he feels free because of the reduced support in front (saddle's less restrictive). Unfortunately this puts more pressure at the base of the withers, which usually takes longer to show up.

If the saddle was properly levelled you'd probably improve your balance in it, even out the pressure and stop it going back. The rear panel makes average contact (another CC problem - no gussets) because the tree's slightly too curved, but unless you're a heavyweight I doubt it's a too much of a problem.

You could try a folded towel at the front to experiment with level, but CC panels are awkward to adjust effectively unless flocked, which I doubt this is.
One thing not visible in your pics is side-to-side level. You can quickly get an idea by measuring with your fingers between wither and inside of front arch (above the panel). The measurement itself is not particularly important, just that it's similar both sides of the horse :)
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i do think this fits but I would always use a gel pad or something simular to protect your horse's back
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