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    02-12-2013, 05:30 PM
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Foal
How much of the rear panels must make contact on english saddle

Hi. Recently got a new saddle. My question: how much of the rear panels must make contact with the back? Its adjustable, so I can make it wider or narrower. There is no bridging in the middle of the saddle. There is good panel contact until the very back, where there is not panel contact until I sit in the saddle. I can fit my hand under the panels at the very back of the saddle. I'll post pictures. Right now I have it adjusted in the front for 3 fingers width between wither and saddle on the top, and two along the side of the wither with no pinching in the front panels. I'm going to get a saddle fitter out when I find a saddle that I think fits close enough to be worth bringing her out. If it doesn't fit at all, then there's no need to waste a saddle evaluation on a saddle that obviously doesn't fit. Thanks so much for your time and comments.
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    02-12-2013, 05:47 PM
  #2
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To me, when I see how far back along the tree that your hand goes when you put it under the back panels, I think that it is doing the opposite of bridgeing; rockering. It looks like when you sit in the saddle that the middle of the saddle will be pushing down a lot harder than any other part that touches the horse.
That looks like a really nice saddle.
     
    02-12-2013, 05:55 PM
  #3
Foal
Thanks Tinyliny, maybe the tree is too curved (dipped) for his back??
     
    02-12-2013, 06:04 PM
  #4
Foal
View from the back.
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    02-12-2013, 06:06 PM
  #5
Showing
Subbing... I want to see what others say.
     
    02-12-2013, 06:15 PM
  #6
Showing
In one pic he appears a little rump high and I think this saddle will cause you to feel pitched forward.
     
    02-12-2013, 06:16 PM
  #7
Yearling
I don’t know much about that style of saddle but the general principals of how any saddle should go on a horse are the same. Firstly, when the horse is standing square and the saddle is on its back decent cover is fine, and that one looks OK to me. But that’s not really what a saddle is about. What they do is to give you a secure platform on which to ride the horse, and for the horse they distribute your weight over the back as much as possible. The trouble is I think too many people look at the saddle on a horse’s back like in your pictures and think THAT’S the situation in which the weight is distributed. It is not; that is entirely static. Saddles and horses back are about dynamic weight distribution. With every movement, your horse back is going to be moving about; the saddle will be losing contact and gaining contact all over the place all the time. Therefore, if we take bridging or its opposite for example, these aren’t fixed states that your saddle will do, they are stages the horse’s back and saddle will be going through as the horse moves. What is most important in a good fitting saddle is that it has primarily two things for the horse, and if it fits well, it will provide these things as a function of good fit. 1) Weight distribution over the largest surface area possible WITHIN the bounds of 2) providing best freedom of movement for the horse’s back with no hard/sharp points to dig into the horse anywhere. Again, I don’t know much about saddles like yours, but that one looks to fulfil the 2 golden rules to me.
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    02-12-2013, 06:17 PM
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    02-12-2013, 06:20 PM
  #9
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The thing is, a lot of english saddles come off the back like that, but when you put your hand under it, it showed that this one comes off a lot more than is typical. To some extent, the hrose can round up the back and make it fit better, but on the other hand, if the saddle is pushing down hard in the middle, the hrose will not round up in the first place.

Have you ridden him in it? How'd that go?
     
    02-12-2013, 06:20 PM
  #10
Started
The saddle is far to low on the withers. The rule of thumb now is 3 fingers when you are sitting in the saddle. Also look how much it tips forward. It is not balanced properly.

Here is a perfect video to explain it Saddle Fitting - 9 Step Guideline for Optimal Fit
     

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