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    02-27-2010, 06:57 PM
  #1
Green Broke
I am a saddle fitting noob! Please tell me what to do!

Hey guys,

So, I have a very very nice dressage saddle. An Albion Legend 5000 (http://www.transitionsdressage.com/i...itsysaddle.jpg) that I absolutely love. I haven't used it since I competed my retired horse back in 2005 because at the time, I didn't have another horse who it remotely fit. Uma (my draft cross) is WAY too wide for it so it sat in my trailer except for the occasional rides on my old girl.

This summer, I brought it out again to try it on my then-new horse Demi. She hated it. So, again it sat until today...

I tried the saddle on without the extra Roma pad (http://www.horsetackinternational.co...half%20pad.bmp) and rode in it for the first time in months. She didn't mind it for once! I am wondering if the fit is now right because I didn't use the pad. I can fit two and 1/2 fingers between the pommel and her withers when I am not on her. I can look through the back of the saddle and see a reasonable amount of light. When I am on her, I can fit one and a half fingers and I can still see light down her back. The sweat marks look correct. Is this saddle fitting correctly?

I will try to get pics maybe tomorrow.

Thank you!
     
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    02-27-2010, 08:37 PM
  #2
Green Broke
Bumping. I really need to know the answer!
     
    02-27-2010, 08:54 PM
  #3
Trained
Nooo, no no..nope. It wont do. You must get rid of this saddle instantly.....I'll take it off your hands for you.
     
    02-27-2010, 08:56 PM
  #4
Green Broke
;) I know you would. But I would like to see if it fits my horsey first! Hehe.
     
    02-27-2010, 11:05 PM
  #5
Trained
LOL. Send a horse with it :)

But in all seriousness, you'd have to get pictures :) Or even better, get a saddle fitter to come out :)
     
    02-28-2010, 09:43 AM
  #6
Green Broke
I wish I could get a fitter to come out but there are really no english fitters in the area (hello, western country!). So, you people will have to do I am ok when it comes to saddle fit (I think...) but when it comes to intricate stuff, I'm not so savvy.

Anyway, here are pics of Demi with the Albion on. I know the billet is broken. It's been like that for a few years. They all are getting replaced. They're nasty and brittle right now from age... eww.

*disclaimer about her mane*... I'm lazy
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    02-28-2010, 11:04 AM
  #7
Trained
I think it looks pretty darn good, but there are more knowledgeable people who will beable to help you out - luvs2ride for one.

My concern, is it looks to not be making contact with Demi's back, near the middle. The tree looks to be too strait for her back, if that makes sense? See how it makes contact with her shoulders, and see how the saddle makes contact with her back near the cantle - but if you move your eyes a smidge further up her back from the Cantle, right where the back of the flap starts - it looks like it isn't touching her back.

If you were to put your hand flat on Demi's side, and try to slide it under the panels, are there pockets?

Could be just the picture.
     
    02-28-2010, 01:43 PM
  #8
Green Broke
Thanks.

I'm pretty sure it's just the pics. The things that look like pockets on the pics(I can see them too) aren't there when you look at it in person. Probably something to do with the fact that it's a black saddle and the shadowing on her back is dark.

What do you mean by straight tree?
     
    02-28-2010, 04:24 PM
  #9
Green Broke
Bump?!
     
    02-28-2010, 04:33 PM
  #10
Trained
Strait Tree -

Ok, take a look at the Wintec's - their trees are very strait. From Pommel to Cantle, there is no arch at all in the tree, just strait as a board. That is why Wintecs work very well with flat backed horses, not horses who have an arch to their backs, like TB's for example.



If you look at the panels, look directly under the cantle....and follow the line to the Pommel - see how strait that tree is. You don't want that for a horse that has an arch to their back.

The Bates as well - it is understandable that the tree's are the same in both brands of saddles, since Bates makes Wintecs as well.



See how strait that tree is. Follow the panels - no curve to them at all.

HORRIBLE tree shape on these saddles for horses with saped backs. These tree's will bridge - just as what my Wintec 500 did to Nelson.

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Now look at this Rembrandt Dressage Saddle - see how the tree archs. Look at the panels...see how it has more of a banana shape to it?



That shape of tree, accomodates horses with arched backs - like Nelson.

Same with this Stubben Siegfried VSS:



See how the panels are shaped like a banana? That means that the sadde has an arched tree.

Does that help? Your saddle, has a strait tree.
     

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