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        04-26-2011, 09:16 AM
    I need help with bits

    The bit I am using right now on her is a solid piece curb bit. There is just a slight curve in the bit itself. When I ask for her to back up she throws her head up instead of tucking it and backing nicely. Is there another type of curb bit that I could use on her that is gentler I guess. I know people at the show were using ported bits but not sure of the actual bit in the mouth though.

    I want it gentle but one that will make her more responsive.
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        04-26-2011, 09:45 AM
    Will she back in a snaffle? Is your horse actually trained to back?
        04-26-2011, 10:10 AM
    Originally Posted by iridehorses    
    Will she back in a snaffle? Is your horse actually trained to back?
    She backs great in the snaffle but something about this bit she wants to fight first then back. That is the only thing she does wrong in this bit that I am using. I would rather find a bit that she likes and doesn't get frustrated with if I can.
        04-26-2011, 10:13 AM
    Maybe she doesn't like the solid mouth piece? Could you try a broken or 3 piece?
        04-26-2011, 10:19 AM
    I could I am just trying to figure out a good one. She isn't a finished horse by no means but is coming along nicely. I want a bit that makes her more responsive than me having to really put pressure on her. I talked to a lot of people at the show and they said to try her in a junior cow horse bit. I want her to collect better but overall just comfortable in the bit.
        04-26-2011, 10:36 AM
    The best combination of a curb with a semi broken mouth piece is a bit with a Billy Allen mouth. I've been using this one for the past dozen years:

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        04-26-2011, 10:53 AM
    Thanks. Can you tell me a little more about this bit? The pros and cons of it?
        04-26-2011, 10:54 AM
    Green Broke
    I was going to suggest a billy allen type bit. They're great for horses that like a little movement in the mouth without creating the nutcracker effect on the tounge.
        04-26-2011, 11:01 AM
    Have your horse's teeth been floated? Are you positive she's ready to move into the curb? Is she already trained to collect, round, and back in the snaffle?

    The Billy Allen is a good suggestion, though I'd get something with shorter shanks and a slightly higher port than the one pictured above. A smooth three-piece Junior Cowhorse is also an idea.
        04-26-2011, 11:05 AM
    I just found that bit and have read what others have said about it. The shanks are kind of long how does that work? Does it make it more severe on the horse? I have heard you want short shanks to make the bit less severe. Correct?

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