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post #1 of 21 Old 09-05-2011, 12:35 PM Thread Starter
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I rant a lot, don't I?

As the title says, here comes another rant.

We noticed Destiny was greatly improving in flexing at the poll when we put her in the pelham with bit converters.

She still seemed a bit off though and as our last effort we decided to switch her saddle from the old, AP, wide, no-name brand leather piece of junk I was using, to her owners (I only lease her) Mondega saddle for our last jumping lesson.

The Mondega is a CC saddle and has a laser hardened spring tree which according to my coach and the owner (who was also riding in my lesson) Desy liked more by looking at her, seeing her working more from her hind and balancing herself more over jumps.

I could feel I had to pull less on the reins (I'm pretty soft-handed with the pelham, so I wasn't yanking them) but everything just worked so much easier in that saddle. Especially that my posting trot was so much neater, my legs barely moved at all, where as in the AP saddle, no matter how much I squeezed my leg muscles and lifted with my thighs, my leg still moved a TON.

My problem now is, I can't keep using Desys owners saddle in my lessons because it did cost her 1400$ and she doesn't want me to wear it down. So, I went to Greenhawk to look at the Mondega saddles they had, I noticed they had a nice comparable, but cheaper model there, which still included the spring tree, I sat in it (it was an inch too short, but I really only wanted to feel the quality) and then I sat in a wooden tree Val du Bois saddle, another brand made by Greenhawk. I LOVED the Val du Bois, it was much more comfy than the Mondega and the girl working the cash register said she preferred the Val du Bois over the Mondega because they fit a wider range of horses and were more comfy and padded.

I knew Des worked good in the spring tree, but I thought it wouldn't hurt to try the 15 day trial period on the Val du Bois which has a wooden tree. (It was also, by the way, 300$ cheaper)

Anywho, I had the money to buy it then and there, but I decided to BBM (like texting) Des's owner first, just to run the idea by her. She came back with 'erm. Don't like wooden trees' I told her about what the cashier had said, and about the trial period and she put up a fight before allowing me to at least try it on her.

There's been talk around the barn as well that my coach was offered a job at a lesson barn, and discounted/free board for her horses if they were allowed to be used as lesson ponies. My coach told Desys owner about it, because they offered the same board deal to her, and she ran it by me, I told her I would no longer lease Destiny should she move, because I liked where we were at and personally don't like schooling barns. I'm drawn to just abandoning all of the drama at my barn right now, and going back to my first riding barn, it was so peaceful and the only reason I left was to follow my coach because she was a great person. Now I'm thinking it'll just be easier to plant myself there for the rest of my riding career and be with my wonderful cousin (she rides there too) and the amazing horses there, do you think I should? :s

I guess I just came to rant about whatever, express my feelings haha. Cookies to anyone who read!
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post #2 of 21 Old 09-05-2011, 12:40 PM
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If you are leasing a horse, you should not have to buy a saddle for the horse for you to ride in lessons. That should be included whether it cost $1400 or $100. "Wearing a saddle down" that is ridiculous...you're riding in it for a hour a few times a week...that won't hurt it. It's not like you're throwing it on the ground...if you have to purchase a saddle for a leased horse, I would not lease it anymore.
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post #3 of 21 Old 09-05-2011, 12:43 PM Thread Starter
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I understand where she's coming from with the wearing down as my legs do move more than hers and she likes to keep that precious saddle in prestine condition, leather marks aren't fancied by her. I'm really considering leaving everything and moving back to where I started...
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If she has a problem with that, then she should purchase another saddle for leasers to use or not lease the horse. The whole idea behind leasing is for people who want to say try out a horse and get a slight feel for what it's like to own one or for say people who want a horse, but can't afford the financial responsibilities of one.

The saddle is going to get rub marks just with regular wear. I have seen some amazing riders saddles whose legs don't even move and their saddles have rub marks just from regular use. If it's that big of a problem, then she can put some tube socks on the leathers.

I'm just going to go out and say it sounds like you're getting ripped off.
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The whole idea behind leasing is for people who want to say try out a horse and get a slight feel for what it's like to own one or for say people who want a horse, but can't afford the financial responsibilities of one.
That is not necessarily true. I lease, only because I am in between stages in my life and do not want to buy a horse just to either have to sell it or lease it out when I go to law school next year.

As for tack, I bought my own saddle. I have had my own saddle since I was taking lessons at about the age of 8. I don't see an issue with buying a saddle when you are leasing. I buy just about everything for my lease the only thing I use that his owner owns is his bridle. Which I am looking into buying my own anyway.

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post #6 of 21 Old 09-06-2011, 05:13 PM Thread Starter
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I may be leaving everyone and everything at this barn anyways. Everyone there are already wound into a tight knot of friendship that I clearly don't fit in. I'm most likely moving back to my old barn, sad as it is to leave Destiny. :(
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Sorry you have to leave a horse you care about but you will probably be happier at the other barn.

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Thanks for the support :)
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If you reread your post you will find the answer at the bottom as that is the only time you spoke about something being positive. "Now I'm thinking it'll just be easier to plant myself there for the rest of my riding career and be with my wonderful cousin (she rides there too) and the amazing horses there," Seems pretty clear to me.
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That is not necessarily true. I lease, only because I am in between stages in my life and do not want to buy a horse just to either have to sell it or lease it out when I go to law school next year.

As for tack, I bought my own saddle. I have had my own saddle since I was taking lessons at about the age of 8. I don't see an issue with buying a saddle when you are leasing. I buy just about everything for my lease the only thing I use that his owner owns is his bridle. Which I am looking into buying my own anyway.
However, your saddle may not fit all the horses. Saddles need to fit both horse and rider...You cannot just assume your saddle will fit all horses.
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