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    02-20-2010, 09:39 AM
Green Broke
i want your opinions on Flex Trees

So as some of you know. I've been having to go bareback. Because silly me bought a saddle that was to big for my horse.. so I was wanting to know your expierence on Auto Adjusting Flex Tree Saddles. Do they really adjust well to any horse? How good do they work? Pros? Cons? Do you like them? Are they comfortable? Any problems with them?

Thank you in advance!
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    02-20-2010, 01:11 PM
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If you are referring to the RB King Series, run.......

I have had too many people say parts have come loose and caused damage to the Horse.

    02-20-2010, 02:09 PM
Green Broke
Not sure really. Just Auto Flex Trees in General but yeah that's what I was waiting to hear. I figured something has happened before like them breaking and causing damage to the horse.
    02-20-2010, 02:36 PM
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I have seen other versions of the RB, it is a novel idea in theory, the problem I see is all the mechanical parts, hinges, springs, bolt, etc. can come loose then you have items that would jab your Horse and cause severe damage, that is what has happened with the RB.

If the angles of the bars in the Saddle are not too bad, a built up pad may work in adapting your current Saddle.

Can you take some pics of the current Saddle on your Horse without a pad, lightly cinced, show how the Saddle sit pertaining to the wither area?, that would help to find any options.

    02-20-2010, 02:38 PM
I just recently read a piece about flex trees that really turned a light on for me (I've owned several)
What about Flex-Trees?

One of the objects of a saddle tree is to distribute the load on the horse over as many square inches as possible to eliminate pressure points as much as possible. If you sit on a horse bare back, then your pin bones are carrying most of your weight on two small areas each the size of a quarter or so. If you put a standard rigid tree between you and the horse and the tree fits the horse well, then your weight will be distributed over approximately 200 inches, which is about how many are on the bottom of the tree and in contact with the horse. This of course, is far easier on the horse then having all the weight concentrated on two small areas. If you use a flex tree instead of a rigid tree, then you lose this advantage because the small areas carrying the load will transfer through the tree to the horse and the rest of the tree will give away and not support anything. If you sit a table on the floor and put a ten inch square of plywood under one leg and sit a 100 pound weight on top of the leg, then you will have one pound to the inch of pressure on the floor. If you use a ten inch square of flexible material, rubber or soft flexible plastic under the leg, then you will have 100 pounds of pressure on the inch directly under the leg and the rest of the area of the ten inch square material will not support anything. A flexible tree will not distribute your weight equally over the horse. Flexible trees are not nearly flexible enough to conform to the shape of the horse and even if they were, they wouldn't do any good because they wouldn't distribute the load equally.
This is quoted from Custom Tree and Saddle - Fiberglass Encased Trees
    02-20-2010, 02:48 PM
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Good Post Vidaloco, I will have to save that link.

Above is a pic I finally found of the RB, others have tried similar things, IMO, it is an accident waiting to happen, not to mention the pressure points mentioned in your article.

    02-20-2010, 03:03 PM
Green Broke
I had a Reinsman Flex tree saddle about a year ago. I sold it because it killed my back! It was also rolly and insecure on my horse. The gal I sold it to loves it though, so maybe it's just me.

The Reinsman Flex tree was a different technology from the RB Auto Adjust flex tree though. I believe the entire saddle bars flexed on the Reinsman, similar to the Circle Y flex trees.

The drawing of the RB Auto Adjust tree reminds me more of an Ortho Flex style, with flexing panels.

Sorry I couldn't be of more help. I guess I just posted to let you know my experiment with a flex tree saddle left me going back to regular treed saddles. I ended up sending a wither tracing to a saddle company and had them match my horse's wither shape to a saddle tree that they had in stock. It has worked out great and no more white hairs on my horse after a long summer of trail riding last year. We did 5 hour rides, about 5 days a week, and I only had one horse to ride. So I'm very happy! So that is what I would recommend. It's not fool-proof, but at least it's an educated guess.
    02-20-2010, 03:46 PM
People who like then have generally said:
Use a really good (like $150) all wool 1" thick saddle pad
Don't use a flex on a swaybacked horse. Be sure the rocker of the bars is a reasonable match for the curve of the back.
They are okay if you ride mostly in arenas or on the flat, not on steep or rugged terrain.
Rider weighs 180# or less.

Tex Tan seems preferred and I haven't seen anyone specifically cuss out a Tex Flex on any forum. Circle Y has had tree defect problems that nobody seems to know the details of, and CY has been cussed, lol. Used Circle Y Flex I saddles are turning up at the local tack shop and 3/4 of them show signs that the saddle was taken apart to get at the tree. Some people had the Flex I trees replaced under warranty. Others got shafted. Flex II started in 2006. Is discontinued now?
Cheap imports with flex trees are to be avoided.
    02-20-2010, 04:53 PM
I don't know about the Auto Flex Tree saddles (whatever that is) but I DO know that Circle Y flex tree saddles are very good. I personally have a Big Horn flex tree saddle (very good quality) and it works really well. I personally want a flex tree instead of a rigid tree, that way the horse's back can move easier and isn't restricted by a static tree.
    02-20-2010, 05:39 PM
Green Broke
So flex trees are defintely a bad idea. I made a post about how bad my saddle fits but i'll post the pictures. And the last 4 are of the saddle with the pad I normally use. And for the record. When I bought it I had no idea about saddle fitting. Because the saddle I had borrow for her. Just naturally fit. So I didn't think about it. Then we got this one and both times I rode in it she pitched a fit and bucked. I have NO idea what size this is. But if you guess could tell em how to measure it and such I can do that to figure it out. And it is a Hereford Brand of Yoakum, Tex Tan (ahaha I have no idea if I put any of those words in the right order!)
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