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    12-14-2007, 09:13 PM
  #11
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Check this out....

http://www.tackwholesale.com/derby-g...tem-p-818.html
     
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    12-17-2007, 02:10 PM
  #12
Foal
No, no, and NO! ANY leather saddle that retails for under $600 is NOT worth buying... You're much better off buying quality used equipment than cheap cr@ppy new equipment. Stick with name brands that currently retail for $600 and up, like Crosby, Collegiate, Bates, Stubben, Courbett, Passier, Kieffer, Ovation, HDR, etc. You want quality European or higher priced Argentine made saddles.

Or, you can go synthetic. Wintec and Thorowgood are the two best brands. Maxam is a line of thorowgood saddles that is sometimes adervertised used without mentioning that it is by Thorowgood. The HDR, Kincade, and Weaver synthetics are all crap.

Cheap English saddles are generally made in India, Pakistan, or China. They are made with thin, cardbaord-like leather that is (litterally) tanned with urine or other harsh chemicals. The color is then painted on, so cleaning is easy, but oil will not soak through the top surface properly (if at all). The hardwear on the saddles is usually inferior, made of metals that are full of impurities and much more likely to bend or break under stress. The tree is often fiberglass (or at least partially fiberglass) which is the worst material you can use for a saddle tree. It can warp and become brittle in extreme temperatures (over 90 degrees and below freezing), and can even crack or break.

You get what you pay for.
     
    12-17-2007, 02:56 PM
  #13
Foal
These are the cheapest "new" saddles that I would consider:
http://aretesaddlery.com/tack/index....&productId=144
http://aretesaddlery.com/tack/index....&productId=160
http://www.aretesaddlery.com/tack/in...&productId=205

http://equusnow.com/product_info.php...oducts_id=2013
http://equusnow.com/product_info.php...oducts_id=1930

http://www.doversaddlery.com/thorowg...1-15554/cn/93/

http://www.jeffersequine.com/ssc/pro...89UCG6KSWX0WF0

This one would be a half-way decent saddle, but it's made on a "fiber flex" tree, which is fiberglass... So, I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole! I'd rather have cheaper leather with a good tree, not the other way around...
http://www.tackwholesale.com/paris-t...dle-p-730.html
     
    12-17-2007, 10:33 PM
  #14
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Thanks guys!!!!!!!!! I am looking into everything now....
     
    12-17-2007, 11:18 PM
  #15
Weanling
I would definitely search ebay for better deals! Some people overprice their tack, but most people I have encountered are honest about the quality and provide lots of pictures. Some people even offer a return if the fit isn't good or something like that. I have a used Stubben All purpose saddle that I LOVE. I wouldn't trade it for a more expensive new saddle or (obv. Lol) a cheaper saddle.

Maybe ask for paypal gift certificates from all your friends and family (who plan on getting you something anyway) that way it can go towards a more quality saddle and bridle.
     
    12-18-2007, 01:33 AM
  #16
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I am really having a hard time finding a saddle that is affordable. And also where I don't have to purchase all the other saddle things necessary. I have been browsing and just wanted to point this saddle out. It's probably another No, No but I am putting it anyways. I trust ValleyVet. Lol.

http://www.valleyvet.com/ct_detail.h...04ae5#MoreInfo

Money is a very big issue here. I have been only looking into raising around $500.00 for now but I am not sure that that will work...? I really need HELP!
     
    12-18-2007, 12:32 PM
  #17
Foal
Any of those cheap package deals are not good saddles. You really need to look at used tack to stay in your budget.

What size seat do you need? What size tree does your western saddle have? What color(s) do you prefer? I will find something for you .
     
    12-19-2007, 04:30 AM
  #18
Trained
Ill prob get hammered here by the 'non cheap group' but if I remember correctly you are only starting out in english and im assuming that anything you get now is only to start with. While most of these saddles are cheap imported ones, they do serve a purpose as long as you know what you are in for. You also have to work within your budget and shouldnt be bullied out of doing so. Don't get me wrong, if you can find a better used saddle at a great price, that would be better but if you can't, these starter packs serve their purpose.

I would say though that they biggest thing you need to look for is the fit of the saddle. One of the saddles I currently have is a 16.5" status synthetic saddle and while it isnt an overly expensive one, it fits like a dream and is incredibly comfortable for me and my horse. And as long as you look after theses saddles, they will last quite some time. I've added a link to a page about status saddles. My saddle is the same as the one on the left of the page.

http://www.vc.net.au/brands/status.htm

If you are planning on showing english then obviously you would need a better saddle but only at higher levels. For the basics, a good fitting saddle of any price is fine :) even many of the cheaper saddles now have a much better fit than the cheaper saddles of old
     
    12-22-2007, 11:03 PM
  #19
Yearling
Are there ever tack swaps in your area? You might be able to find a nicer used saddle at one?

For just starting in english and 4H, there is nothing wrong with purchasing one of those package deals as long as you know you will likely be replacing it in a few years if you continue to Pursue english.

Fit will definitely be the most important factor for you, so pay close attention to that.

I know a lot of people aren't big into synthetics, but the girl who leases my gelding has a wintec that works great for her. Wintec has the exchangeable gullet system so you can adjust the size to your horse. Wintec can be fairly affordable, and can come with leathers and irons. When you make your order, you can just get your girth and bridle from the same company to save on shipping - then you could pick the bridle you like and a girth that fits.

I agree you might want to check out ebay - there are sometimes some good packages there.

If you know you are going to continue with english, you might try waiting for a while to get better quality or buy used...I bought a cheaper ($500) western saddle, girth, bridle, breast plate package a couple of years ago. It had really crummy leather and silver. When I decided I would continue showing, I purchased a much better quality saddle. I don't regret doing that though because I have a cute saddle my 4H kids can borrow for shows, and I didn't put $2000 into a saddle before I knew just what I wanted (my new saddle has very little silver because I found I didn't like cleaning it) :)
     
    12-22-2007, 11:28 PM
  #20
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I would much rather see a good synthetic over a poorly-made leather saddle.
     

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