Originally Posted by sorral3
and personally, if a trainer is suggesting more bit and gear to try to force a horse..find a new trainer
Absolutely agreeing with sorral here. If your trainer can't just go back to basics & tells you to use 50 million different pieces of equipment - they aren't worth their money. My barn gets in tons
of off the track TBs. Some of them require a bit stronger of bits, most of them don't. None of these horses ever required specific nosebands, bits, & extra junk to accomplish a horse to come on contact.
The waterford bit I can understand as I've heard they're a bit harder for horses to really grab & take off with. It might be something you could give a try. If he doesn't like it or still seems to grab the bit real bad, might as well stick with a regular single or double joint snaffle. The Mexican Grackle seems unnecessary as it just closes the jaw shut higher than a regular crackle or figure 8. I can't see how this would help much as he's already grabbing the bit & taking off with it sort of deal. A regular noseband adjusted properly will work fine. And if you've never worked with draw reins before - I heavily advise against using them as you can do more damage than good. You can easily create false frames, collections, bit evasions, etc. Now I do
personally use them but on a horse who is well schooled in flexion & collection. She just has a tendency to power through my hands so the draw reins give me a bit of extra control should I need it.
But they're not ever anything I would use with a horse who doesn't already understand the concepts. Gssw gave you some good training advice & there's numerous other members on here who can help you accomplish what you need with this horse