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    06-15-2012, 04:19 PM
  #1
Teen Forum Moderator
Just curious...What ARE these?!

I was digging around in our tack box today and found some very strange bits. I did some research and I think I found what they are, so I'll post online pictures of some that are similar. I just have to know what on EARTH they're for though.

This is the first one. It looks terrible and I don't think I'd even be able to figure out what each part is for!

Mikmar Original Combination Bit | Dover Saddlery

And then theres this one. The only difference about ours is that its slow twist wire. I know what it is, but don't really understand the function and point of having two pieces?

Gina Miles Double Break Full Cheek | Dover Saddlery

Thanks for any information guys. No wagging your tounges at me about using them though, I doubt either of these have ever been used by us as they still have their tag stuff on xD eeek.
     
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    06-15-2012, 04:27 PM
  #2
Trained
I won't judge you--I like your Avatar too much to do that. =D
The 2nd one looks like it pinches when the horse pulls. Somebody gave me a worse one, with 2 mouthpieces that were kind corkscrew. I think you'd create a hard mouth with either of them.
I'm not sold on the extra noseband apparatus on some of the Mikmar bits. I always wonder what might happen to the horse who gets loose with one of these, steps on the reins and panics, but I guess it's just me.
     
    06-15-2012, 05:02 PM
  #3
Weanling
A girl at my barn has been looking for the first one for her brain fried barrel horse who apparently doesn't have brakes. I am interested to see what other people say.

To MY untrained eye on the first bit, it looks like it should be used with two sets of reins. It looks like an accident waiting to happen in the wrong hands and I hope the girl at my barn does not find this bit.
     
    06-15-2012, 05:02 PM
  #4
Banned
I actually really like the second bit, and have used them and recommended them.

The two mouthpiece with breaks in different places, off center, somewhat minimizes the nutcracker effect and keepts the joints from contacting the roof of the horse's mouth.

Other than that, it's just a slightly different, attention getting snaffle, something I'd switsh to for a final school before a show, and switch back to my usual for the show itself.

The first one? I've got no idea.
     
    06-15-2012, 05:08 PM
  #5
Showing
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Originally Posted by Endiku    
This is the first one. It looks terrible and I don't think I'd even be able to figure out what each part is for!

Mikmar Original Combination Bit | Dover Saddlery
I never tried one of those weird Mikmar bits and have no intention to try (I have their snaffle on both my horses and love it though), but... We had a discussion about them on my local board, and several people said those bits worked very well for them and don't ruin horse's mouth or have any other effects. I can try to dig out a discussion (can't promise though as it's been a while).
     
    06-15-2012, 05:17 PM
  #6
Yearling
The second bit is just a 'W-Mouth' snaffle someone's given a fancy name. You used to see them on showjumpers years ago, mostly as a loose-ring version, and they were considered a strong bit. They've fallen out of favour lately, though.
     
    06-15-2012, 05:24 PM
  #7
Weanling
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Originally Posted by unclearthur    
The second bit is just a 'W-Mouth' snaffle someone's given a fancy name. You used to see them on showjumpers years ago, mostly as a loose-ring version, and they were considered a strong bit. They've fallen out of favour lately, though.

Do people use two reins for this bit?
     
    06-15-2012, 05:26 PM
  #8
Teen Forum Moderator
Thanks so much for the information guys. I didnt want to condemn them before I knew anything about them xD The cord-looking part of that first bit... where does it go? Around the nose?

And that's really interesting, Maura. I wouldnt use the one we have because I'm not a fan of twisted wires, but its nice to know the purpose!

Oh, and thankyou Corporal ;) I'm rather fond of it.
     
    06-16-2012, 01:21 AM
  #9
Banned
I think a double twisted wire is a hideous bit, but it's because of the thinness and the edges on the mouthpiece, the double part is fine!

Aldebono, the second bit is ridden with a single rein.

I last saw one in the late 80s, I guess they've fallen out of fashion, but I always thought of them as a useful step up from a milder snaffle

If you want to get rid of it, let me know. I wouldn't mind having one in my tack box again.
     
    06-16-2012, 08:46 AM
  #10
Foal
When I went to HOY in 2010, I saw two of those Mikmar bits in use on jumpers (and HOY is like the finals/champs of the show jumping series down here). If you're curios how it fits on a horse, here's a couple of photos. To my knowledge, they're supposed to be used with two reins - one on the snaffle point, and one on the curb point... I think the noseband string goes to the curb, but I'm not entirely sure.

http://i46.tinypic.com/1z33ymg.jpg
http://i45.tinypic.com/2my81h5.jpg
     

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